TTR Upgrade
#31
Chevy 13 Didn't do anything ?? Did you drive it?? That stationary bar is a torsion bar, it twists under load, the swaybar fortifies that reducing body roll. One would have to go a little over 5miles an hour to feel the benifits , but not much.
#33
I installed a TTR rear sway yesterday. Not really impressed. I don't see how it is going to benefit any. It was just a bar bolted solidly to an already stationary cross-bar. Sway bars are supposed to move and absorb. It can do anything just bolted to something that doesn't move. I kinda wish I would have left my money in my pocket for that one.
#34
hhrfreek is correct. A sway bar also known as an anti-roll bar or stabilizer bar is not supposed to bend or twist under load. If it did it would kind of defeat the purpose. There was an earlier post suggesting that the TTR sway bar is made of mild steel and therefore more prone to bending, of course this means bending is bad. There may be more high performance related ones out there but seeing as I am not track racing I am very happy with my TTR. Try a few more on and off ramps and increase your speed after the apex of the corner. It should make you smile. If not remove it and repeat.
#38
I just installed my TTR sway bar last Wednesday and I felt a instant difference one I took a turn. Way better feeling, and today my upper TTR mount arrived and from what I've read looks like I'm gonna be happy with it. So IMO TTR sway bar and upper engine mount is the way to go. Cheap and easy to install compared to other upgrades. Worth it I think.
#39
If you think the bar on these is big, I won't show you the ones on my corvette (mounted to what appear to the naked eye as a non-moving metal component). The one on the top of my Eclipse also is not your cup of tea, that runs from front shock mounting post to the other shock mounting post, across the top of the engine bay.
Sorry to inform, metal does indeed shift and twist when torque is applied.
How far is the issue and the questions is "how much do you want to allow?"
#40
JeramieJJ: I think the bar running from one strut tower to the other is called a "strut brace" and not a sway bar. Keeps the strut towers from flexing. Just so you know.
Now, about this sway bar, twist beam rear suspension[all HHr's have], debate.
Sway bars and twist beam suspensions both twist, one side up the other side down. It's what makes them work.
The easy solution to this, is to Google "How a sway bar works", and it will explain in detail how a sway bar works, and it's intended purpose, without all the B.S. debate back and forth.
I personally have a 1 1/4" "Harcore" rear sway bar installed, and believe me it works far better than a stock SS, in a very hard turn, or any turn for that matter. I do some autocross from time to time, and so far the only limiting factor in a balls out turn, is tire grip, and how big your "stones" are. Anyone that can't tell the difference, does'nt need a sway bar anyway. Maybe a set of training wheels.
Now, about this sway bar, twist beam rear suspension[all HHr's have], debate.
Sway bars and twist beam suspensions both twist, one side up the other side down. It's what makes them work.
The easy solution to this, is to Google "How a sway bar works", and it will explain in detail how a sway bar works, and it's intended purpose, without all the B.S. debate back and forth.
I personally have a 1 1/4" "Harcore" rear sway bar installed, and believe me it works far better than a stock SS, in a very hard turn, or any turn for that matter. I do some autocross from time to time, and so far the only limiting factor in a balls out turn, is tire grip, and how big your "stones" are. Anyone that can't tell the difference, does'nt need a sway bar anyway. Maybe a set of training wheels.