Manual or Auto-tragic??
. I am older, lazy and just love to cruise my HHR. Eventually, Chevy will put in what is needed to put the pt gt to sleep.
05-15-2006, 09:43 AM
#65
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Join Date: 05-15-2006
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I am stuck as well. The HHR I drive is an automatic, and for cold days in Missouri (Mild, but still cold) it is nice, also hot days for it's leather as well. I just now learned about the I and L gears, so I'll give them a try, but ever since my stick conked out on me; and I learned to drive on it - I am very partial to the stick.
I will be in Texas by the time I get my own HHR (My mother's is the one in the signature - but consider myself 1/3 owner since we all drive each others cars) so the coldness factor won't be bad, but it will be hot, and since I love leather it might be useful for that, but I really don't mind. I love a stick, I love driving a stick and more than likely I'll be getting a stick.
So one question, for someone who knows the automatic and manual:
-When I had my last car, I noticed that the automatic version cruised in last gear at a lower RPM than my stick version (roughly 250 - 500 more RPM), so does the HHR do that as well? I will be driving a lot of highway miles and if I can get a lower RPM then I might order an automatic (Or does the engine/transmission wear about the same?) since I'll be going back and forth to Texas and Missouri (~500 miles, for family), as well as anywhere I get a gig.
Thanks!
I will be in Texas by the time I get my own HHR (My mother's is the one in the signature - but consider myself 1/3 owner since we all drive each others cars) so the coldness factor won't be bad, but it will be hot, and since I love leather it might be useful for that, but I really don't mind. I love a stick, I love driving a stick and more than likely I'll be getting a stick.
So one question, for someone who knows the automatic and manual:
-When I had my last car, I noticed that the automatic version cruised in last gear at a lower RPM than my stick version (roughly 250 - 500 more RPM), so does the HHR do that as well? I will be driving a lot of highway miles and if I can get a lower RPM then I might order an automatic (Or does the engine/transmission wear about the same?) since I'll be going back and forth to Texas and Missouri (~500 miles, for family), as well as anywhere I get a gig.
Thanks!
05-15-2006, 10:08 AM
#66
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Join Date: 10-14-2005
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Well, with the intake and IMCO muffler on my 2.4L, I'n running 3100rpm at 95mph....so judge for yourself.
Generally speaking, automatics have a higher final drive ratio than sticks, so yes, they usually will cruise at a lower overall rpm in the highway.
Generally speaking, automatics have a higher final drive ratio than sticks, so yes, they usually will cruise at a lower overall rpm in the highway.
05-15-2006, 10:35 AM
#67
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Join Date: 10-02-2005
Location: VA
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With numbers taken from GM specs:
Auto: 4th ratio: 0.68 Final Drive: 3.91 OA Ratio: 2.66
5-sp: 5th ratio: 0.69 Final Drive: 4.17 OA Ratio: 2.88
Yep, like Mike said, the auto is geared a little taller than the 5-speed.
At 60 MPH the auto will be turning about 200 RPMs less.
Auto: 4th ratio: 0.68 Final Drive: 3.91 OA Ratio: 2.66
5-sp: 5th ratio: 0.69 Final Drive: 4.17 OA Ratio: 2.88
Yep, like Mike said, the auto is geared a little taller than the 5-speed.
At 60 MPH the auto will be turning about 200 RPMs less.
05-15-2006, 12:15 PM
#68
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Join Date: 04-30-2006
Location: Maryland Heights, MO
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I gotta say I love sticks!
However, I too am lazy and like the conveniance of the auto which is what I have.
By the way, I LOVE the 'I' drive! The only problem is that it sucks up gas way too fast for me.
However, I too am lazy and like the conveniance of the auto which is what I have.
By the way, I LOVE the 'I' drive! The only problem is that it sucks up gas way too fast for me.
