2.4L Performance Tech 16 valve 172 hp EcoTec with 162 lb-ft of torque

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Old 08-15-2007, 10:54 PM
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OK...zoomed in on this and got the following information. Couldn't get everything unfortunately. I many not know alot, but I do know that dynos should be run at the same time...not 2.5 months apart. Why is that?

Red line was run 11-26-2006 @ 4:45:35 pm, 64.24 degrees F, humidity 72%, max power 162.84 and max torque is 151.22

blue run was done 9/12/2006 @6:49:00 pm/ run type- RO/ Conditions- 76 Degrees F, 30.06 in HG, Humidity- 53% /// Max power- 158.29 and Max torque 145. 46

Doesn't say HHR on there anywhere that I can see either. How do we know that it's not just the difference before and after a tune...since this is what they do?
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Old 08-15-2007, 10:59 PM
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They don't have to be done at the same time. I can go get my car dynoed tomorrow for a baseline, two months down the road I can add an intake, and a year down the road I can add an exhaust then I can compare the three runs to see how much power was gained or lost for each change. Dyno runs are usually ran back to back for time and convenience only.
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by captain howdy
Dyno runs are usually ran back to back for time and convenience only.
And to help keep the varialbes to a minimum, such as temperature.
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jx3
And to help keep the varialbes to a minimum, such as temperature.
True but if it's done in a fairly controlled environment like a heated / air condition shop that shouldn't make too much of a difference.
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by captain howdy
True but if it's done in a fairly controlled environment like a heated / air condition shop that shouldn't make too much of a difference.
Also true -- did you read the Temps & Humidity on that chart ? Not even close -- also posted a year after dicovering this profound news ?
Somethin stinks here-- and its NOT my feet!! lol
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Schmodie
Also true -- did you read the Temps & Humidity on that chart ? Not even close -- also posted a year after dicovering this profound news ?
To tell you the honest truth.........no.
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:17 PM
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Not suprised -- Why bother ACTUALLY looking at the questioned document --- just start touting it as fact !!
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:18 PM
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OK...I can buy that...but where on the dyno shown above does it say what the dyno is for? Who is to say its even for an HHR? If I paid for testing like this I would want all that information to be visible so I had absolute documentation. To me, this is only partial information and I've done some searching since joining this discussion and have seen charts that contain all the particulars and then some.

As it sits right now...the information provided is about as informative as the 670 post bump thread.
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Schmodie
Not suprised -- Why bother ACTUALLY looking at the questioned document --- just start touting it as fact !!
It's not so much the document in question but who I personally trust more. SoCal didn't even post any graphs.........at all. But he sure had a pretty chart showing the CGS crushing the competition including the stock. It's not like it personally makes a difference to me because I still have the stock set up. SoCal's logic defied conventional auto logic. But you couldn't prove the expert wrong.
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by captain howdy
It's not so much the document in question but who I personally trust more. SoCal didn't even post any graphs.........at all. But he sure had a pretty chart showing the CGS crushing the competition including the stock. It's not like it personally makes a difference to me because I still have the stock set up. SoCal's logic defied conventional auto logic. But you couldn't prove the expert wrong.
I see no proof in this graph either, its all just word against word .
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