Originally Posted by Kingfrog

Another thing is these "leather" seats are vinyl coated so clean up is really easy. I have to scrub my wifes 2002 Spyder tan leather seats with a brush but they always come clean because they are vinyl coated as well. Old leather absorbed liquids. These don't therefore leather conditioner is a waste of money since it's not getting to the leather itself.

To see if your leather is vinyl coated take a rag and some cleaner. Rub hard between the seat back and seat. If the rag picks up the dye its not coated. If not it is and thats a good thing!!

My brother just uses a towel to sit on.

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Originally Posted by Snoopy

Are you sure about this Kingfrog????? If they are vinyl coated why do they stain?? I thought I once heard/read the absorbtion in old leather was allowed because of the lack of current day chemicals used in the dyeing/tanning/treating process.

Originally Posted by courthousedeb

Kingfrog...I have cloth seats in my HHR...which I bought right off the lot. I've never been big on leather seats, as here in Colorado they are really hot in the summer and really cold in the winter, so all my cars have always had cloth seats. I was lucky, as it had everything I wanted except running boards and I got them about a month or so later though. Thanks for the great tips on the leather seats though...I'm sure it will come in handy for those who do have leather.

The seat covers could fit a little better, but for the price, I can't complain. Best $30 I've spent in a while and definitely a far cry better than cleaning the seats all the time...even rain stains these cloth seats like nothing I've ever seen before.