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Old 04-11-2012 | 12:33 AM
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SS Struts and Shocks

Ok, its been awhile since anyone has talked about this, but has anyone come up with a decent shock package for the SS yet? Has anyone "tried" the KYB GR2's and if so what were the results..at 52k and a 4 corner squirm its overdue for a change. Otherwise its stocks parts....what is everybody using..I know your pushing the miles and the stockers are worn out...coilovers are nice but just as expensive as the Koni's..looking for updates..thx
Old 04-11-2012 | 08:26 AM
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Should the shocks and struts really be worn out at 50K
I would hope not seeing how most cars easily make it to 100k
Old 04-11-2012 | 10:00 AM
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Should the shocks and struts really be worn out at 50K
ABSOLUTELY!
I would hope not seeing how most cars easily make it to 100k
Because those parts performance goes away so gradually, most drivers don't realize their shocks have gone bad until many, many miles after their proper life-span.

Many people think those parts are good for the life of the car, but if you drive a vehicle with 0 miles on it, then one with about 20k on it and then you immediately drive the exact same car with 50k on it, you are going to see how badly those parts are worn. At 100k, it wouldn't even be funny how badle those parts are worn out.

100k on stock struts is almost dangerous most of the time. With the cars listed in your signature, I would have thought that you'd have more insight on this than most people on here and wouldn't even question something like this
Old 04-11-2012 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Rod Run
ABSOLUTELY!
Because those parts performance goes away so gradually, most drivers don't realize their shocks have gone bad until many, many miles after their proper life-span.

Many people think those parts are good for the life of the car, but if you drive a vehicle with 0 miles on it, then one with about 20k on it and then you immediately drive the exact same car with 50k on it, you are going to see how badly those parts are worn. At 100k, it wouldn't even be funny how badle those parts are worn out.

100k on stock struts is almost dangerous most of the time. With the cars listed in your signature, I would have thought that you'd have more insight on this than most people on here and wouldn't even question something like this

Funny you mention this. Yesterday I had to swap out a vehicle for a customer. Initially I drove down to Savannah in an 08 with 24K miles on it. I swapped that with their old one which was the exact same 08 model, with 80K miles on it, they both handled exactly the same. I put roughly 250 miles on each, same roads everything.
Old 04-11-2012 | 11:12 AM
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My experience shows me that most factory shoicks make 20 to 30 K. If they lasted 100k the shock guys would go out of business.....My car is so loose most every bump now makes the car dance and cornering feels like the tires are rolling under...put it off long enough.
Old 04-11-2012 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Rod Run
ABSOLUTELY!
Because those parts performance goes away so gradually, most drivers don't realize their shocks have gone bad until many, many miles after their proper life-span.

Many people think those parts are good for the life of the car, but if you drive a vehicle with 0 miles on it, then one with about 20k on it and then you immediately drive the exact same car with 50k on it, you are going to see how badly those parts are worn. At 100k, it wouldn't even be funny how badle those parts are worn out.

100k on stock struts is almost dangerous most of the time. With the cars listed in your signature, I would have thought that you'd have more insight on this than most people on here and wouldn't even question something like this
Wow thats quite the response, sounds like something I would get from my local tire shop dealer trying too sell me something without knowing any better.
I was just asking to see if there was some inherent issue with all SS's at 50,000 miles with struts.
Truth is It really would depend on the road conditions,the car etc brand of struts shocks and climate.NOT and I repeat NOT the mileage as you are stating.
To blindly say that you can get in any car at 50k and easily see a difference in a car that has 25k on it is rediculous.And to make the statement of
"At 100k, it wouldn't even be funny how badle those parts are worn out.
100k on stock struts is almost dangerous most of the time" is just crazy.

I have owned worked on and driven many cars at 100k that drive way better
than cars at 25k.
Lots of contributing factors to consider before sayin "hey all struts and shocks are bad at 50,000 miles" and dangerous at 100k.
All I can say is WOW. And hope no one ran out and got there 50k mile struts and shocks changed just because
Old 04-11-2012 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by solman98
Funny you mention this. Yesterday I had to swap out a vehicle for a customer. Initially I drove down to Savannah in an 08 with 24K miles on it. I swapped that with their old one which was the exact same 08 model, with 80K miles on it, they both handled exactly the same. I put roughly 250 miles on each, same roads everything.
Good point and my point exactly
Old 04-11-2012 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Rod Run
ABSOLUTELY!
Because those parts performance goes away so gradually, most drivers don't realize their shocks have gone bad until many, many miles after their proper life-span.

Many people think those parts are good for the life of the car, but if you drive a vehicle with 0 miles on it, then one with about 20k on it and then you immediately drive the exact same car with 50k on it, you are going to see how badly those parts are worn. At 100k, it wouldn't even be funny how badle those parts are worn out.

100k on stock struts is almost dangerous most of the time. With the cars listed in your signature, I would have thought that you'd have more insight on this than most people on here and wouldn't even question something like this
Okay, I've had two HHRs and I can't tell. My SS I bought used had way more miles than my old 2LT, but the suspension feels better than the LT. Is there a way to visually tell if you need struts/shocks? I don't know if the prior owner replaced this stuff. If I've got over 80K and it feels great, should I just assume it is all good?
Old 04-11-2012 | 11:41 AM
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To blindly say that you can get in any car at 50k and easily see a difference in a car that has 25k on it is rediculous.
Granted there are variables to every situation and I couldn't say all that I did, as a blaket statement on evey car, but I still feel better about my statement, as a general rule, than yours about them lasting 100k

Not trying to get in argument here, but I guess it just all comes down to how hard it is to express experience/opinion online, without people getting the wrong idea.

People that go on public forums, to get advice, need to take everything with a grain of salt. Even I get caught up in that once in a while

There are to many people that say things that they know nothing about, or only have one experience with a situation so they think that is the rule. Even worse is the people that give advice based on something "a friend of a friend, heard about something from another friend" so the mast be the absolute truth. Internet forums are just way to crowded with that type of stuff and sometimes I will put out a statement (like I did about you sig line), just to try and see which type of person they are. Please don't take things the wrong way
Old 04-11-2012 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Rod Run
Granted there are variables to every situation and I couldn't say all that I did, as a blaket statement on evey car, but I still feel better about my statement, as a general rule, than yours about them lasting 100k

Not trying to get in argument here, but I guess it just all comes down to how hard it is to express experience/opinion online, without people getting the wrong idea.

People that go on public forums, to get advice, need to take everything with a grain of salt. Even I get caught up in that once in a while

There are to many people that say things that they know nothing about, or only have one experience with a situation so they think that is the rule. Even worse is the people that give advice based on something "a friend of a friend, heard about something from another friend" so the mast be the absolute truth. Internet forums are just way to crowded with that type of stuff and sometimes I will put out a statement (like I did about you sig line), just to try and see which type of person they are. Please don't take things the wrong way
No offense taken and very well put by the way.There are many people on the net that give out advice that they should not
Lots of great people on here and you just confirmed that to me.
Sometimes I write some things that I do not mean to be taken a certain way.
Anyhow no offense taken.


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