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Old 03-28-2008, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by solman98
But the 2.2 auto HHR would probably outrun it. Remember that the early IROC Z's in the 80's only had 160HP. Look at todays 4 bangers.
I would assume you are right--my Blackie only feels a little sluggish compared to Indy (the truck). I think when I take it up the L.A. portion of the Grapevine (highway 5), that will be where I will tell the difference.

Nevertheless, I'm glad I insisted on the 2.4.

(I went from a 3 banger (the GEO) to the V6--a bit of difference! )
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by afs9

(I went from a 3 banger (the GEO) to the V6--a bit of difference! )
That, I'm sure you felt the difference......
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Old 03-28-2008, 08:31 PM
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Based on my own experience and your comments I am going with the 2.4-especially since I will be carrying a load.
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Old 03-28-2008, 08:48 PM
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Absolutely no complaints with my 2.2L. In the first week after I bought it, 4 adults -- all over 200 pounds each -- drove it all over Middle Tennessee for a total of 1,200 miles, and I had no complaints about the way it ran. I make regular runs from Nashville to Steele Alabama, about 201 miles one way, and go up and over Monteagle Mountain. 6% grade up one side, and 5% up the other. The Buggy has no issues what so ever. Drop it out of D and into I and right on up and over. With great gas mileage to boot. Have driven a lot of 4 cylinders before, and this one beats any of those.
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Old 03-28-2008, 09:36 PM
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My 2.2 experience is pretty similar to tim_tenn's. It runs pretty well. I came out of a 300hp '95 Vette and sure my little four banger is no Vette but its got enough go for what I need. Plus I don't have to buy premium fuel any more. You can put regular in the 2.4 but then you're pretty close to same as 2.2 performance because via the electronic spark control the knock sensor is keeping timing pulled back in the 2.4 when 87 octane regular is used.
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Old 03-29-2008, 09:37 PM
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It sounds like the 2.2. would suffice, I certainly don't want to be buying premium fuel for any reason. Plus, the better deals are accompanying the 2.2s which I already mentioned, are in great abundance here.
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Old 03-29-2008, 09:51 PM
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Cherokee -- I really don't think you'd regret getting the 2.2L. I drove Toyotas in the late 70's through the late 80's, and thought the 2.4L in my Celica GT and my SR5 pickup was a pretty strong engine with agreeable gas mileage. I would say this 2.2L Ecotec is at lest as good as that 2.4L was, and probably smoother and quieter. I drove a '96 Olds Achieva SC with the Iron Duke 4 cylinder with a manual transmission and absolutely hated it. It was pretty much gutless, and forget having any sort of power when you turned on the air conditioner. My HHR would run rings around that Olds andget better mileage doing it.
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The 2.2 likes to rev higher than other engines I have had. If you keep the auto tranny in "I", it will stay around 3000 rpm where the power is. I find that more satisfying, feels like a manual.
Anyone find any ill effects from doing that regularly?
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Originally Posted by prod
The 2.2 likes to rev higher than other engines I have had. If you keep the auto tranny in "I", it will stay around 3000 rpm where the power is. I find that more satisfying, feels like a manual.
Anyone find any ill effects from doing that regularly?
other than lower mpg?
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Old 03-30-2008, 07:05 AM
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I don't drive like I am in the Indy 500, so I don't see the real difference. I tested the 2.4 before I bought mine with the 2.2 in 2005. Sometimes I wish it had a bit more pep, (the car, not me) but I keep up with everyone just fine, and my gas mileage is great compared to lots of other vehicles on the road.
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