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Old 11-12-2020 | 03:59 AM
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So which button do you think we should push?
and yes I remember the condenser trick, shocking!
the cathode ray tube was dangerous, we were told to shoot old TV sets and never use an aluminum bat to smash them, or metal pipe!
What button are you talking about ?
Breaking the tube causes an implosion which intern will cause the broken glass to fly out.
If you are in front of it you can be hurt.
Breaking it with a metal bar and getting a shock, I never heard of that.
Old 11-12-2020 | 04:03 AM
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So right now I'm the only one who says disconnect both battery leads and jumping them together is a more positive way of discharging the energy in all the ECM's in the car.
Any other thoughts on this or is it a dead matter ?
Old 11-12-2020 | 08:06 AM
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You mentioned the power button in your post #1.
the TV sets causing injury was, what an adult warned us years ago.
Touching the positive and negative terminals , that’s what fried my radio in Aug 2019.
In an HHR , I cannot recommend this practice!

Cat Man , you are welcome to test this theory with your own HHR , and report back to us.
Bare in mind , you will be responsible for any damages it may cause to your vehicle.
Old 11-12-2020 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Cat Man HHR
On a laptop or PC you unplug the power source or remove the battery and then press the power button to discharge any stored power that's in the circuits of the unit.
On a laptop or PC you still have to hold the button for at least 15 seconds. I've been supporting computer systems and servers for over 25 years. I don't know anyone that's held the button to discharge the capacitors. Remove the power source and walk away for ten minutes if there is a need to discharge the capacitors. Same as I've always done for a car computer.
Old 11-12-2020 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Cat Man HHR
Thank you Don for this statement.
Back high school physics class I said the same thing to the teacher and had a "heated" discussion about it.
The teacher never agreed with me and said the two were different.
I guess one could argue that "all condensers are capacitors but not all capacitors are condensers."

On a laptop or PC you still have to hold the button for at least 15 seconds
That is a firmware thing to avoid unintentional switching. Not discharging caps. The "wait 30 seconds before turning it back on" saw is for that.
Old 11-12-2020 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Oldblue
Touching the positive and negative terminals , that’s what fried my radio in Aug 2019.
Please explain how the radio was damaged when you connect both cables together when they were not connected to the posts of the battery ?

Old 11-12-2020 | 11:27 AM
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The RAP system discharged and fried the radio.
Old 11-12-2020 | 11:51 AM
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Perhaps the difference between allowing it to discharge naturally, vs forcing it to discharge?
Old 11-12-2020 | 12:57 PM
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I believe the cables touched when I lifted the battery up and out. It wasn’t intensional.
Old 11-15-2020 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Oldblue
The RAP system discharged and fried the radio.
This is why I like the experienced advice here. I say another forum(not HHR) that recommended wiring the positive and negative terminals together for awhile after removing, and I thought, “WUT?”

If simply removing the negative terminal for 30 minutes is proved to work, I don’t see the problem. I kinda think it shouldn’t make any difference which terminal was disconnected, other than with the positive terminal were removed instead, it would be easier to accidentally close a circuit between the two terminals by touching it to anything grounded.



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