Which is better -- 2.2 (LS) or 2.4 (2LT)??? Looking to buy...
02-22-2009, 05:28 PM
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i concur.
i found it very odd when i was searching for mine and i was using the chevy locator, i looked through at least 1000 different hhr's. I had it down to an approximate price to look at to know it was the options i wanted. However so many of them would be 1LTs, with the 2.4 added, running boards, chrome package, etc all added on. Yet it was not a 2LT, and it cost more then a 2LT, someone somewhere was getting ripped off.
i found it very odd when i was searching for mine and i was using the chevy locator, i looked through at least 1000 different hhr's. I had it down to an approximate price to look at to know it was the options i wanted. However so many of them would be 1LTs, with the 2.4 added, running boards, chrome package, etc all added on. Yet it was not a 2LT, and it cost more then a 2LT, someone somewhere was getting ripped off.
02-22-2009, 06:08 PM
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I agree w/ this.
02-22-2009, 06:32 PM
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02-22-2009, 07:43 PM
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vvt???
what is vvt??? also someone stated that at least the hhr is not foreign , well kind of , it's assembled in mexico with parts that were mostly made in mexico. and all us taxpayers pay for it weather or not they have one.
02-22-2009, 08:05 PM
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thanks,
now can you exlpain what it does???
i think the trans are assembled in canada. i deliver parts for my job , it is unbelievable how many of them are made in mexico. it also make me wonder why my town is looking alot more like mexico with hispanic stores on so many corners.
02-22-2009, 08:08 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VVT
At least for my Panel which has the 2.2 and an the auto tranny the window sticker shows the Engine and the Transmission are both made the in the United States.
At least for my Panel which has the 2.2 and an the auto tranny the window sticker shows the Engine and the Transmission are both made the in the United States.
02-22-2009, 08:38 PM
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ok ,vvt
ok , i read that article about vvt. i understand what it does , but i am not exactly sure how it does it. it seems threre are different ways to do it. i am also curious how and what mods this would effect??? i have been thinking about building a 2.4 , at 270+ miles a day , if i keep this up i may need a spare. i also hope to have a different job that doesn't require all these miles on my hhr. so i may build my engine better than stock. i have also thought about adding the 2.2 turbo. i am just not crazy about turbos. don't they need more frequent rebuilding , than a non turbo??? i have seen 2.4s with 1400 hp , i am not saying you can't do that with the 2.0 turbo , or the 2.2. but i haven't seen one built this way.
02-22-2009, 09:01 PM
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How it does it varies from manufacturer to manufacturer. In the Mazda when the program in the ECU determines that the timing can be advanced they open a valve on the cam cover, pump oil through it and allow the cam to move more than it would be advanced without the VVT engaged.
The reason it makes it hard to tune the motor up is that when your doing something like adding boost you need to reduce timing at various points and the VVT might be deciding to add it instead.
The reason it makes it hard to tune the motor up is that when your doing something like adding boost you need to reduce timing at various points and the VVT might be deciding to add it instead.