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Old 09-08-2008, 05:28 PM
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Everything costs more in Cal. in order to pay for all the fires, earthquakes, lack of rain and other things people out there think need changing.

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Why would anyone want an E85 HHR in the first place? The fuel costs more than regular gas, and you have to fill the tank twice as often. And how many gas stations outside of Beverly Hills supplies E85?

Now, when GM produces a Hybrid HHR... then I'll be impressed.
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:29 PM
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I was told by my dealer that the E85 also requires a stainless steel gas tank too.
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:48 PM
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I was told by my dealer that the E85 also requires a stainless steel gas tank too.
I hope it wasn't a service employee that said that, because he is wrong. If he does work in service find another dealership. Gas tanks are made of composite plastic. Besides can you imagine the weight a stainless steel tank would add to the vehicle.
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Old 09-08-2008, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by modestohhrclub
Why would anyone want an E85 HHR in the first place? The fuel costs more than regular gas, and you have to fill the tank twice as often. And how many gas stations outside of Beverly Hills supplies E85?

Now, when GM produces a Hybrid HHR... then I'll be impressed.
This link shows E85 to be about 40 cents cheaper http://e85prices.com/california.html

E85, if you believe the hype is supposed to help us become less dependent on foreign oil. E85 fuel economy's not good enough in my book. The only advantage would be if the country were suffering from an oil embargo/major conflict and the Gov't was using E85 formulations to stretch our petrol supplies.

Hybrid HHR ? - Current GM "Mild" Hybrid Technology, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mild_hybrid) gives a only a small advantage in fuel economy over a normal combustion engine. GM needs to develop a system close to what is used by Toyota

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from what i have heard it might be cheaper...........but your not going to get the mileage out of it........
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Salesman, should have known better, 99.9% don't know their head from you know what.
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I hope it wasn't a service employee that said that, because he is wrong. If he does work in service find another dealership. Gas tanks are made of composite plastic. Besides can you imagine the weight a stainless steel tank would add to the vehicle.
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Old 09-08-2008, 09:27 PM
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Now here's what's odd....


A buddy of mine has a barn find 71 Plymouth Duster that he built into a Sox&Martin tribute car.... running a 360 with two 4 barrels on a tunnel ram intake. He runs E85 and the car runs much better and faster than even on 110 octane racing fuel. There's nothing special about the engine, literally.... it's out of a 77 Dodge pickup, the carbs were sitting on his shelf for 20 some odd years. No special fuel lines, gaskets, nothing.
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Now here's what's odd....


A buddy of mine has a barn find 71 Plymouth Duster that he built into a Sox&Martin tribute car.... running a 360 with two 4 barrels on a tunnel ram intake. He runs E85 and the car runs much better and faster than even on 110 octane racing fuel. There's nothing special about the engine, literally.... it's out of a 77 Dodge pickup, the carbs were sitting on his shelf for 20 some odd years. No special fuel lines, gaskets, nothing.
E85 is 105 octane...

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Hybrid HHR ? - Current GM "Mild" Hybrid Technology, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mild_hybrid) gives a only a small advantage in fuel economy over a normal combustion engine. GM needs to develop a system close to what is used by Toyota
GM has a two-mode system in the larger SUVs that gives a 50% increase in fuel economy. The so-called "mild hybrid" systems on the Malibu/Aura/VUE are a bridge for the new two-mode systems they're coming out with in the next couple of years. GM's also about to blow everyone away next year with the first true hybrid, a genuine plug-in car that uses the gas engine to charge the batteries.
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Creamed corn, yes. Liquid corn-gas? Seems rather silly to me.

I'd be more interested in the 65 mpg diesel engine Ford won't sell here.
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The 105 octane rating at less than half the price of turbo blue is why he started using it. He's going to do a top end teardown this winter to see if it affected anything.
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