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Old 08-29-2023 | 12:28 PM
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So yesterday while I was driving 2011 hhr 2.2 LT….I got ESC SERVICE…then ESC OFF…along with ABS and Traction lights. Pulled over and shut car off…then cranked it back up…was on briefly then all went off….scanned when got home….had left front wheel speed sensor code (sorry, forget the #). Hasnt happened again so far but in the past it has couple times while with the old front hub assemblies….these now are practically new.

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Old 08-29-2023 | 01:59 PM
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Whoever installed them either didn't plug the sensors in tight enough or stretched a wire by not remounting the connector.
Old 08-29-2023 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by donbrew
Whoever installed them either didn't plug the sensors in tight enough or stretched a wire by not remounting the connector.
well….that would have been me that replaced the hub assemblies…lol….but that has been thousands of miles ago…no issues.
Been driving it today with no issues so far….maybe a fluke..? We will see

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Old 08-29-2023 | 03:41 PM
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Could be loose connection, water infiltration, dirt, wire hanging on something that move shorting or just going bad.
Old 08-29-2023 | 04:56 PM
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They don't make 'em like they used to.
Old 08-29-2023 | 06:30 PM
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Best to state the actual code. C0035, by any chance?

ESC light is pretty common and may not be a big deal. Do read the owners manual so you understand what it means. At least one of my GM cars did this and the owners manual just says basically to turn it off and back on and don't worry about it unless it keeps happening. Don't know if the HHR manual says the same, but it might as well.

If it keeps happening, before you start replacing stuff, get under there and see if there's any debris to clean out. There's a TSB on this.

If you still have unexplain alerts, check the harness and connector. It's an old car; the copper wire can be broken even if the insulation can looks fine.
Old 08-29-2023 | 10:44 PM
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There are a lot of seemingly unrelated things that can cause the ESC and traction warnings. However, when combined with the ABS and an ABS code they combined lead to the wheel sensor.
There should be a 2 digit hex code after the C00XX code that might help. Most common is a chafed wire or bad connection.
Old 08-30-2023 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PulpFriction
Best to state the actual code. C0035, by any chance?

ESC light is pretty common and may not be a big deal. Do read the owners manual so you understand what it means. At least one of my GM cars did this and the owners manual just says basically to turn it off and back on and don't worry about it unless it keeps happening. Don't know if the HHR manual says the same, but it might as well.

If it keeps happening, before you start replacing stuff, get under there and see if there's any debris to clean out. There's a TSB on this.

If you still have unexplain alerts, check the harness and connector. It's an old car; the copper wire can be broken even if the insulation can looks fine.
ok thanks for the info

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Old 08-30-2023 | 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by donbrew
There are a lot of seemingly unrelated things that can cause the ESC and traction warnings. However, when combined with the ABS and an ABS code they combined lead to the wheel sensor.
There should be a 2 digit hex code after the C00XX code that might help. Most common is a chafed wire or bad connection.
Thanks

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Old 08-30-2023 | 12:24 PM
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Twice I have had moisture wick up into the ABS sensor cable (the part attached to the car harness) and cause a fault code.

Even though the insulation looked perfect on the outside, the copper strands were almost completely gone, replaced by strands of corrosion that just crumbled.

I kept cutting the wires back until nice clean copper appeared. In one case it was bad all the way from the connector to almost a foot back up the harness.

Rock Auto sells a repair harness for the ABS sensors.

Steve



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