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Old 07-12-2022, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Bonez
LOL no they use this black sticky stuff that dries like a rubber, definately doesnt slip. Most shops Ive seen just use soapy water installing tires, its a lube. But this black stuff is like a sealer too I suppose, pretty much "glues" the tire to the rim.
Sounds messy. I wonder how long the “glue” takes to dry under the rim, where no air can get to it. (That’s the whole point of a sealant in this case, right? To stop air? Dismiss the possibility if you like. Or, however remote, check it out.

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Old 07-12-2022, 09:41 AM
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In these directions, you let it dry first then install the tire Note it does say it is flammable.
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Old 07-12-2022, 10:04 AM
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It looks like soapy water but it is "special stuff". It smells rubbery, comes with a swab/tool that fits in the container mounted on the side of the machine. The actual need for it is to avoid damaging the bead, it can be torn or even broken when you apply hydraulic force without lube. I know from experience!
Those grease looking product are mostly for industrial tire that have very wide tread and a belt is not enough to get the bead onto the rim there are rubber rings for the purpose also. On some car tires you need to wrap a belt around the tire to spread the bead. The rim of car wheels is different from industrial wheels.






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Old 07-12-2022, 11:10 AM
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On some car tires you need to wrap a belt around the tire to spread the bead…
I just bought HHR standard-size 215/50R17 tires for 17x8 aftermarket wheels. Because I knew that might be a little outside the recommended range, wasn’t surprised that I got initial balking, claiming there maybe be a problem with mounting because rims are too wide. I mentioned the belt technique and they said, no, they don’t do stuff like that anymore. I persuaded them to order the tires in anyway, pointing that they’re replacing the same size tires already on the rims, and they had R&R’ed those to install new TPM sensors.

Anyway, the tires came in and I mentioned the discussion to the confident and apparently experienced tech, and he just laughed and said he hadn’t used a belt in ten years. “We use a bead blaster.”

“What’s that?” I asked.

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Turns out they didn’t need it, BTW.

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Old 07-12-2022, 11:20 AM
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Those work great! Better then the propane tank idea in the early ‘90’s , that was a blast!


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Old 07-12-2022, 11:30 AM
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Hmm. 40 years ago I worked in a repair/service garage. Mounted many tires. Our tire machines had a little foot pedal that activated a "bead seater" or a large shot of air to help with getting the bead to set. I thought all modern tire machines would have something like that.

And yes, I've used that inflatable strap piece before. Always scared the heck out of me because I thought it would blow up ! It finally did one day. Luckily no one was hurt.
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Old 07-12-2022, 11:37 AM
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My son lost his eyebrows using the propane method.
Thankfully no other damage.
He chalked it up as a lesson learned.
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Old 07-12-2022, 02:19 PM
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I nearly lost my head when a broken bead popped, the tire missed me and hit the fluorescent light 20 feet up.
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Old 07-12-2022, 02:27 PM
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so where are these BCM and ECM located at so I can check connections? The ESC came on again first start up today but didnt come on after that...made a few runs this morning to get lumber, got the coop done.
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Old 07-12-2022, 02:31 PM
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BCM is the in cabin fuse box. ECM is under the Darth Vader hood in front of the underhood fuse box.
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