Euro to North American wiring
08-10-2009 | 01:40 PM
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Euro to North American wiring
Hello
I'm new here and this is my first post.
I'm from Luxembourg-Europe and have a EU-modified HHR. I want to rewire all the lighting to US-standards. I've already finished the front which was quite easy but the back gives me a headache.
This is what they've done:
Cut off the Turn/Brake and rewired them to the Backuplights which are now equipped with amber bulbs.
Spliced into the 3rd-Brakinglight and wired this to the left and right Brakelights.
The Backuplight is now under the Bumper together with a Rear-foglamp.
The Question is, how did they cancel out the Brakesignal on the Turn/Brake-wire?
They didn't rewire C3/A9 and C3/A12 to C1/35 and C1/A17, what my first thought was.
Hi
I haven't done anything at the back yet. The car has been modified to a independent brake and turn signal on it's journey to europe. I want to rewire it back to US-standards. I have almost all figured out as described above, I just don't get why the turnsignals don't get a brakesignal anymore. Imagine as if only your 3rd brakelight would work when you hit the brakes.
Thanks
I'm new here and this is my first post.
I'm from Luxembourg-Europe and have a EU-modified HHR. I want to rewire all the lighting to US-standards. I've already finished the front which was quite easy but the back gives me a headache.
This is what they've done:
Cut off the Turn/Brake and rewired them to the Backuplights which are now equipped with amber bulbs.
Spliced into the 3rd-Brakinglight and wired this to the left and right Brakelights.
The Backuplight is now under the Bumper together with a Rear-foglamp.
The Question is, how did they cancel out the Brakesignal on the Turn/Brake-wire?
They didn't rewire C3/A9 and C3/A12 to C1/35 and C1/A17, what my first thought was.
Hi
I haven't done anything at the back yet. The car has been modified to a independent brake and turn signal on it's journey to europe. I want to rewire it back to US-standards. I have almost all figured out as described above, I just don't get why the turnsignals don't get a brakesignal anymore. Imagine as if only your 3rd brakelight would work when you hit the brakes.
Thanks
If you are interested in viewing where the backup light was installed near the bottom of the bumper on the European version, herein is a photo of it.
Complements of Firefly -
Last edited by unique_w; 08-11-2009 at 07:38 AM. Reason: Corrected Image for better viewing
08-11-2009 | 01:33 AM
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there is actually only a backup-light on the right side, the left light is a rear fog light and should be red. You can make out something amberish in the original backup-lights as these are independent turnsignals.
The whole thing gets more and more confusing, I don't have two switches on my brakepedal but only one with 3 poles, there is a black, white and yellow wire running of it, I,ll probe it this afternoon to check which voltages run of it. Are the brakelights on u.s.hhr'sfunctional without having the key in acc or run?
The whole thing gets more and more confusing, I don't have two switches on my brakepedal but only one with 3 poles, there is a black, white and yellow wire running of it, I,ll probe it this afternoon to check which voltages run of it. Are the brakelights on u.s.hhr'sfunctional without having the key in acc or run?
08-11-2009 | 06:23 AM
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Rear Fog and Backup Lights
Are the brake lights on u.s.hhr's functional without having the key in acc or run?
The U.S. high mount center stop light activates when depressing the brake pedal.
The two stop lights do not activate with the key off.
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Direct feed from brake light switch to the high mount center brake light.
Feed to the stop lights comes from the BCM hence no power with the key off.
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Is the fog light and backup light recessed into the rear bumper ?
Do European vehicles require a rear fog light ?
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The three wires in the U.S. version are (1) RED/WHT and (2) LT-BLU (Red White and Light Blue)
Last edited by unique_w; 08-11-2009 at 09:57 AM. Reason: Additional schematic
08-11-2009 | 01:22 PM
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The Fog- and Backup-light are some sort of Plasticbox attached to the Bumper, the lights are standard Hella-parts.
European vehicles not necessarily need a fog Lamp, check Volkswagens in the US, but Vehicles registered in EU have to have a fog Lamp.
The Black and Yellow wires on the brake Pedal are ground and the white has no Voltage (only tested with a diodetester) pumping the Pedal doesn't change anything.
Tried to give Voltage on C2/54 still no turnsignals lit.
I'll now check where the cable on the centerbrakelight comes from.
European vehicles not necessarily need a fog Lamp, check Volkswagens in the US, but Vehicles registered in EU have to have a fog Lamp.
The Black and Yellow wires on the brake Pedal are ground and the white has no Voltage (only tested with a diodetester) pumping the Pedal doesn't change anything.
Tried to give Voltage on C2/54 still no turnsignals lit.
I'll now check where the cable on the centerbrakelight comes from.
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