thanks to both 1panel2nv and lone ranger. Car will look good yes, but slow process. House looks good because I added a second story about two years ago. If anyone on this forum was in Pekin around that time they know where I live. I had BIG blue tarps on my house for months while I constructed the new floor system and trusses. New project, no time for VW. New HHR, no time for VW HHR is new and I hate driving a stock vehicle. Have to be different somehow.