I need an opinion - 2.2 or 2.4?
07-04-2007 | 03:10 PM
#51
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My wife and I were on the interstate with our 2.2 and we came up behind an Escalade. He was driving 55mph on a 75 mph road. So I moved in to the passing lane to pass and he sped up so that I could'nt pass so then I sped up then he sped up some more pretty soon be were both do 100 mph then he backed off I'm sure if his wife wasn't screaming at him he would have kicked my a$$. Any way at that moment I wished I had more power but other than that I've been happy. BTW my wife was screaming too " Smoke him honey kick his @SS"
Shes fun.
Does anyone know when the governor kicks in?
Shes fun. Does anyone know when the governor kicks in?
, but I know my 2.2 does 115mph 
and there seemed to be some more but out of time and space 
, and that's all stock only mods so far are tint and dice 
. My best guess would be about 117-118 
. BTW I like the way your wife screams
07-08-2007 | 12:13 PM
#54
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Like Tom said, it kicks in around 108-110 but a shift to I drive disables it.
I've had Bob up to about 121, this was before I had the Tune Time tune. Since then I've had it to 115 and the rpm's were only about 5500. I was ready to test the limits, but I think it easily had another 15-20 mph out of it. And it was riding just as smooth as could be.
I've had Bob up to about 121, this was before I had the Tune Time tune. Since then I've had it to 115 and the rpm's were only about 5500. I was ready to test the limits, but I think it easily had another 15-20 mph out of it. And it was riding just as smooth as could be.
07-08-2007 | 02:47 PM
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07-08-2007 | 10:17 PM
#56
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With a few minor mods (CGS, IMCO muffler and Bosch +4 plugs),Smoke has much more power according to my butt dyno. Plus...I didn't even worry about the muffler tip. We had one to bolt on to it when I got home and I eventually looked and purchased a nice stainless steel aftermarket tip that I had welded on to the IMCO anyway.
It's all really a matter of what your budget will allow you to spend too. To me...the small amount of added power just didn't seem to be worth it for the extra $1000 extra or whatever it is. JMHO
It's all really a matter of what your budget will allow you to spend too. To me...the small amount of added power just didn't seem to be worth it for the extra $1000 extra or whatever it is. JMHO
The CGS robs power because it sucks in hot air from the engine, but it does look and sound cooler. If that's worth $250 to you, great, but it's almost 40% of the price of the engine upgrade for a questionable "power-adder". The IMCO muffler is also just that--a muffler that sounds louder than stock. I personally don't understand the logic in replacing a full stainless stock muffler with a galvanized steel aftermarket cheapo, but that's just me.
07-09-2007 | 09:18 AM
#57
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From: Dallas, GA
According to my window sticker, the 2.4 engine was a $650 option, not $1000. There are no bolt-ons you can throw at the 2.2 engine for less than $650 that'll give you the same power and efficiency as the 2.4. Put another way, the 2.4 engine is also only about $11 more a month than the 2.2.
0-60=8.51
1/4=16.63
1/4 MPH=84.95
Your 2.4/auto
0-60=8.37
1/4=16.35
1/4 MPH=85.2
Oh yea, you got a rocket there.....
07-09-2007 | 09:28 AM
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Like Tom said, it kicks in around 108-110 but a shift to I drive disables it.
I've had Bob up to about 121, this was before I had the Tune Time tune. Since then I've had it to 115 and the rpm's were only about 5500. I was ready to test the limits, but I think it easily had another 15-20 mph out of it. And it was riding just as smooth as could be.
I've had Bob up to about 121, this was before I had the Tune Time tune. Since then I've had it to 115 and the rpm's were only about 5500. I was ready to test the limits, but I think it easily had another 15-20 mph out of it. And it was riding just as smooth as could be.
07-09-2007 | 11:15 PM
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Especially when you gotta pass on these two-lane highways down here and you need that 3,500 RPM VVT surge.Besides, I've got the bigger exhaust tip--STOCK!
Like I said, you can throw $650 worth of parts at the 2.2 engine and you still won't get the same power and efficiency of the 2.4. I'm getting 30 MPG at 70-80 mph and haven't seen any 2.2 owners claiming that yet.
BTW, in fairness, I have driven a 2.2 HHR and ION many times when I was selling cars. The big difference I noticed is not in overall acceleration, but in passing acceleration. The 2.4 just has the grunt when you need it!
07-09-2007 | 11:28 PM
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I'm getting 30 MPG at 70-80 mph and haven't seen any 2.2 owners claiming that yet.
BTW, in fairness, I have driven a 2.2 HHR and ION many times when I was selling cars. The big difference I noticed is not in overall acceleration, but in passing acceleration. The 2.4 just has the grunt when you need it!
BTW, in fairness, I have driven a 2.2 HHR and ION many times when I was selling cars. The big difference I noticed is not in overall acceleration, but in passing acceleration. The 2.4 just has the grunt when you need it!
That is the one thing that I did notice when I rented a 2.4...around town it was hard for me to see any difference but when you needed passing power the 2.4 gives that extra oommmph..if there was 2.4 around that had the options I wanted I may have bit but the 2.2 does just fine
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