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Old 04-20-2019 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by donbrew
I just don't have anything to add. No twist in my undies.

Doing the same thing over and over expecting a different outcome.........
There wasn't a need to say that. I wasn't disagreeing with you or trying to cause an issues. The same things keep getting brought back up that I am already aware of and have tried. The only thing that were different were the box and the switch which I THANKED YOU FOR THAT VIDEO.
As far as trying the same thing over and over expecting the same result is pure BS. I reaplaced the build to rule out the ones being defective, I returned a defective switch for different one and when I was in there doing other things I tested the fuses, relays and wires again to make sure I tested everything correctly because in a situation like this double checking is not a bad thing. I am fully aware that the systems are seperated because that has been said multiple times and I could see this when I was looking at the diagrams.
I never even got mad when I was told I installed the sockets incorrectly even though it was never read that I had said I had 2 other chevys with chared sockets I replaced NOT this one.
After all the repetitiveness of the same things being said in this thread I never flipped out like that. Also when I was trying to decide which way I wanted to approach the lower control arms I took your advice with replacing the bushings with upraded ones instead of buying completed arms with the same crap bushings so I'm really not sure what is going on
Old 04-20-2019 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Cat Man HHR
Do the fuse box thing. See if it helps.
Thank you. Have you had to do that with the box? The box and the new switch is the last I'm going to try.
Old 04-20-2019 | 12:35 PM
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Sorry I gotta say something here -

Why are you trying a different switch when it has already been explained several times that it will have nothing to do with the problem. That is exactly what Don refers to about doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Same for trying 3 different sets of head light bulbs. And your comment about the sockets installed - you have to realize that when a thread goes on as long as this one has, one cannot remember each and every detail. There are not that many threads that come anywhere close to this long for a single issue for single member.

And it was 23 posts ago that the suggestion to check the fuse box first popped up - and you still haven't looked at it. 23 posts ago!!!!

All we can do is try and help - but getting sarcastic and insulting when those trying to help gets frustrated with the lack of progress etc., is not going to end well.
Old 04-20-2019 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by whopper
Sorry I gotta say something here -

Why are you trying a different switch when it has already been explained several times that it will have nothing to do with the problem. That is exactly what Don refers to about doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Same for trying 3 different sets of head light bulbs. And your comment about the sockets installed - you have to realize that when a thread goes on as long as this one has, one cannot remember each and every detail. There are not that many threads that come anywhere close to this long for a single issue for single member.

And it was 23 posts ago that the suggestion to check the fuse box first popped up - and you still haven't looked at it. 23 posts ago!!!!

All we can do is try and help - but getting sarcastic and insulting when those trying to help gets frustrated with the lack of progress etc., is not going to end well.
when I put the new switch in I could feel a difference in how it acted when I used the turn signal. It was almost like the original was getting worn and I read many people have issues with the turn signal so for $30 why not. Th fuse box was just brought up and I have not had time pullit off yet and I was not getting sarcastic and insulting. I was being appreciative when the video on the box was posted. The headlight, the first ones are what originallly were replaced and someone mentioned possibly the wrong ones, bad brand or bad ulbs may have been put in so that explains the 3 sets of bulbs. Do you think I want keep this going? Ihmve said 2-3 times already that I'm done. I was not snappy at all until I got snapped at. Not once in any thread have I ever caused an issue and the only thing in thread I have not tried yet was the box and it was just brought up and I said "thank you I will have to look at it when I get time" unfortunately this weekend I will not have time.

ETA: the switch was already on its way before it was apparently said not to be the cause
Old 04-20-2019 | 01:10 PM
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And the sockect thing was right after I posted it and I was told he wasn't going to look for the details or something like that when he posted it
Old 04-20-2019 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 092lt
Thank you. Have you had to do that with the box? The box and the new switch is the last I'm going to try.
No I haven't done the fuse box. I too looked at the how to video (a lot of pins under there that can problems) and there have been a few people on this form that have done it with success.
I know your pain when troubleshooting systems you might not be familiar with.
Worked in the automotive field for a lot of years and had to repair other peoples repairs plus chase gremlins also.
I get the feeling your on the ball to repair this.
Old 04-20-2019 | 06:35 PM
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Sorry, I never snapped or got upset. I felt I was out of advice and quit the discussion. Exclamation points are not shouting like all caps. This is the first time I have heard of someone getting offended by one.

I am going to close this for now before it gets out of hand. Feel free to start a new thread when there is something new to be said. We do want to know the outcome.
Old 04-21-2019 | 08:05 AM
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Yes, good idea, thank you for that, Donbrew.
092LT , Please send me a PM when you have anything new to add.
Old 04-28-2019 | 09:39 AM
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I have resolved my problems with my headlights going out

After having the issues with my headlights intermittently going out,(primarily on the drivers side) I have discovered the problem. Once I got a non defective turn signal switch put it the passenger side light had corrected itself.

The drivers side was a bit more complex. Because it happens more on the drivers side than the passenger side I had a suspicion that the issues where tied together but something else was going on with the drivers side.

I know it was said going back through the the same things was not going to fix the issue but I'm glad I did. I started to trim the tape holding the flexible black wire tubing together and started to trace the wires back. A short ways back in the tubing I found a previous repair. It had a small 4 inch section of one of the wires that had been cut and spliced in. The ends were crimped together, one side was loose and looks like it had arced on one connector. I turned the headlights one, moved the wire and sure enough the headlight went out then back on.

The wire appeared to be going down to the center wire on the sockect. Inspection of the small section of New wire looked good andhad enough slack to cut, strip and solder together with heat shrink tube. After that was done I redid the same test and the light did not go out. When I was checking continuity the splice must have been connected enough to show it was ok on the multimeter.

If I hadn't went back through the wiring I would have never found the previous owners crappy repair job and I would like to thank people for the time, patience and all the ideas that were given to me.
Old 04-28-2019 | 10:58 AM
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Good! do you recall the color of the wire? Which connector; 8 pin (block shaped) or 10 pin (straight line)?

Still does not explain how one side could be affected without the other side since the switch sends a single signal for both lights.

I wonder what the "repair" was for. Maybe an alarm system to flash the lights? Would have been a lot easier to splice at the BCM end of the wires.

On the 8 pin connector there is a white wire "headlamp ON signal" and a Purple/white "headlamp OFF signal".


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