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Old 08-18-2009, 06:43 AM
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Yes, both are fine engines. Any engine, properly maintained and taken care of will outlast the body. The worst thing for engines, in my experience, is having several different drivers using them (like rentals and fleet vehicles). It seems that an engine is happiest being driven the same way all the time.

The Colorado is FUGLY!!! They just got the S-10/Sonoma looking beautiful and then dropped it!
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Old 08-18-2009, 10:28 AM
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The Ecotec 2.2 & 2.4 are of course from the same engine family. It's origins are with Opels. Fine engineers those Germans are.
Just a slight correction. Lotus was responsible for the design and engineering of the ecotec engines. I guess GM decided to go to a company that knows how to put together a powerful and reliable four cylinder engine. Remember Lotus had their 2.2 turbo running at 300hp in the Esprit for years before Honda figured out how to get 200 out of their Vtec engine.
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Old 08-18-2009, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by trimotor
Just a slight correction. Lotus was responsible for the design and engineering of the ecotec engines. I guess GM decided to go to a company that knows how to put together a powerful and reliable four cylinder engine. Remember Lotus had their 2.2 turbo running at 300hp in the Esprit for years before Honda figured out how to get 200 out of their Vtec engine.
Actually that's not entirely true either. My statement simply said that its origins were with Opel, that in fact is who initiated the project. While Lotus did the much of the development, it was an "international" project, there were several other GM engineering groups involved including the engine development group in Michigan.
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Old 08-18-2009, 11:27 AM
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To all the Colorado haters...............

We just got an 09 and we love it so far!

Don't get me wrong, I still prefer our HHRs, but compared to my old 86 GMC S-15, the Colorado is perfection. But let's face it, comparing it to an HHR is not fair; truck vs. car. And no matter how GM, insurance companies, or DMVs class the HHR, it is a station wagon.
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Old 08-21-2009, 02:52 AM
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Question: Are the 2.4 & the 2.2 kinda similiar looking ??

& Is there a sticker under the hood stating what motor ??

Thanks in Advance..

Just got a curve ball & need some expert advice...
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Old 08-21-2009, 07:12 AM
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My 04 Saturn Ion Quad coupe has the 2.2 ecotec in it with 5 speed, it has 95k miles on it and I have never had any motor issues to date with it. All I did was change the oil regularly and the spark plugs and wire at 75k. The little thing still gets 34-36 mpg on the highway as advertised new.
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Completely different animal... I just got rid of a 1998 Sunfire 2.4 liter with 23K miles... Never had a problem with the motor until 2 weeks ago... Waterpump went bad. Not worth fixing.
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Completely different animal... I just got rid of a 1998 Sunfire 2.4 liter with 23K miles... Never had a problem with the motor until 2 weeks ago... Waterpump went bad. Not worth fixing.
23K on a 98. WOW !!!! Probably too much time sitting, I'm thinking ?
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Originally Posted by OhioPest
Completely different animal... I just got rid of a 1998 Sunfire 2.4 liter with 23K miles... Never had a problem with the motor until 2 weeks ago... Waterpump went bad. Not worth fixing.
Unless the car was a rust bucket, I think a water pump is a lot less expensive than a new car payment or new car purchase. Even if the car has 123,000 miles of the clock, a trouble free engine is a trouble free car.
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Old 08-22-2009, 08:21 AM
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23K on a 98. WOW !!!! Probably too much time sitting, I'm thinking ?
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Unless the car was a rust bucket, I think a water pump is a lot less expensive than a new car payment or new car purchase. Even if the car has 123,000 miles of the clock, a trouble free engine is a trouble free car.
I am an ass... 230K... Damn fat finger typos!!!
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