New and deleted options on the 2010 HHR
05-04-2009, 10:47 AM
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What I've read (and of course, stuff changes day by day), was the Performance Division which does the R&D on SS models was being eliminated, so no more NEW SS vehicles would be coming out. For those where the R&D is done, I see no reason to dump them.
05-04-2009, 10:52 AM
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The fact there are no new SS other than the Camaro is because all the new cars coming out were never going to be SS anyway in the near future.
GM is still doing the CTS V coupe and several other cars that were set.
The Cruze, Orlando and Volt were never going to offer a SS anyway.
It is really not that big of a deal.
05-04-2009, 08:03 PM
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The truth is the performance division is going to remain and do show cars and race cars. The extra staff that did the performance cars are now intergrated into the production car development platforms.
The fact there are no new SS other than the Camaro is because all the new cars coming out were never going to be SS anyway in the near future.
GM is still doing the CTS V coupe and several other cars that were set.
The Cruze, Orlando and Volt were never going to offer a SS anyway.
It is really not that big of a deal.
The fact there are no new SS other than the Camaro is because all the new cars coming out were never going to be SS anyway in the near future.
GM is still doing the CTS V coupe and several other cars that were set.
The Cruze, Orlando and Volt were never going to offer a SS anyway.
It is really not that big of a deal.
05-04-2009, 09:50 PM
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THe new Cruze will share little with the Cobalt. It is on what is called the Delta 2 platform and will share a few minor things but the engine, drivetrain suspension and most other major parts will not be shared.
The Guy at the plant when I was there told us about the new car and showed us where the new line in Lordstown will be set up next to the present Cobalt line.
Even the engine options in Europe will be different. They get a Deisel too.
The top engine now is the 1.4 Turbo for the states.
GM has raced a lot of cars that did not have a SS on them over the years.
Yes the Cruze just started racing and just won their first in Moroco this last weekend. They also took the pole. Sweet little race car. Note they are not SS's ans were not when introed last year to the motor press.
05-04-2009, 10:08 PM
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This article from last month's Philadelphia Sports Car Examiner pretty much sums it up:
As the financial woes continue for the free-falling American automotive legend General Motors, changes are being made to help keep the company afloat. One of the most disheartening is the disbanding of GM’s Performance Division.
The Performance Division consists of the engineers in charge of most “SS”,”V”, and “GXP” badged GM vehicles such as the Cobalt SS, CTS-V, G8 GXP. "All high-performance projects are on indefinite hold." said GM’s Vince Muniga
The engineers are being redeployed by GM to work on new hybrids for the company’s lineup a move that “The General” hopes will revitalize their market and slow the absolute financial plummet in progress.
So what doe this mean for the arrival of the new Camaro? How about the highly touted CTS-V Coupe? The Corvette ZR-1? According to a February 19th article in the New York Times, General Motors plans to make good on current generation promises. This means the release of the Camaro all the way up to the SS model, although the highest performance model Z-28 seems to be scrapped for now. The CTS-V Coupe will also make its way to the showroom floor though in smaller numbers, the same goes for the Pontiac G8 GXP where production has been cut by 97%. The Corvette ZR-1 will also be released in small quantities. These vehicles will stick around in there current generation but there is no telling what the future holds for the models. As for the Cobalt and HHR SS they will go by the wayside being replaced by GM’s Delta-2 platform vehicle the Chevrolet Cruze a.k.a. the Opel/Saturn Astra. There are no plans for performance versions of GM’s next generation economy car.
General Motors has always been steeped in performance-oriented tradition and there is nothing more symbolic of that than the "SS" badge. Is it sad to see such a prestigious moniker go by the way of brands like Oldsmobile and AMC? Yes. One thing to remember is that the SS badge has been lifted from the GM lineup before and made its return, only time will tell if the words “Super Sport” will mean the same thing ever again.
As the financial woes continue for the free-falling American automotive legend General Motors, changes are being made to help keep the company afloat. One of the most disheartening is the disbanding of GM’s Performance Division.
The Performance Division consists of the engineers in charge of most “SS”,”V”, and “GXP” badged GM vehicles such as the Cobalt SS, CTS-V, G8 GXP. "All high-performance projects are on indefinite hold." said GM’s Vince Muniga
The engineers are being redeployed by GM to work on new hybrids for the company’s lineup a move that “The General” hopes will revitalize their market and slow the absolute financial plummet in progress.
So what doe this mean for the arrival of the new Camaro? How about the highly touted CTS-V Coupe? The Corvette ZR-1? According to a February 19th article in the New York Times, General Motors plans to make good on current generation promises. This means the release of the Camaro all the way up to the SS model, although the highest performance model Z-28 seems to be scrapped for now. The CTS-V Coupe will also make its way to the showroom floor though in smaller numbers, the same goes for the Pontiac G8 GXP where production has been cut by 97%. The Corvette ZR-1 will also be released in small quantities. These vehicles will stick around in there current generation but there is no telling what the future holds for the models. As for the Cobalt and HHR SS they will go by the wayside being replaced by GM’s Delta-2 platform vehicle the Chevrolet Cruze a.k.a. the Opel/Saturn Astra. There are no plans for performance versions of GM’s next generation economy car.
General Motors has always been steeped in performance-oriented tradition and there is nothing more symbolic of that than the "SS" badge. Is it sad to see such a prestigious moniker go by the way of brands like Oldsmobile and AMC? Yes. One thing to remember is that the SS badge has been lifted from the GM lineup before and made its return, only time will tell if the words “Super Sport” will mean the same thing ever again.