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Old 10-03-2016 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by donbrew
Assuming both prices are in CA$ I don't know why such a big difference, maybe the "accident" lowers the price.

You can go to KBB to get the book prices.
I went to the Canadian equivalent of KBB. The book value of the LT2 is CA$7,975 for the automatic, 400 less for a manual. So, I"m not sure why the manual LT2 would be so much less @ 5900...unless he got a really good deal on it because the record isn't clean? He also bought it in a different province. It might work for me though for negotiating the automatic down in price. Fingers crossed I can. Haggling is not my strong suit :)
Old 10-03-2016 | 04:38 PM
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Is that $400 less including the known body work/damage?

Last time I looked up a price I was surprised at how much an accident on record cost.
Old 10-03-2016 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by donbrew
Is that $400 less including the known body work/damage?

Last time I looked up a price I was surprised at how much an accident on record cost.
There was no ability to put in any damage/body work in the sites I checked the prices on. The costs were for clean cars...at least that's my assumption. It makes sense though that the car with the known body work is a much lower asking price. 1300 bucks for a front right bumper seems like it was just a small fender bender or could have been something really innocent.

My current car's roof and windshield was totally damaged a few years ago when a huge chunk of snow/ice fell off of the building I lived in. (I parked right next to the building. An older low rise, only 5 floors. Then the next spring, a 1" by 2 feet long piece of dowel fell off of a balcony... yup....right on my windshield during a huge thunderstorm. Another new windshield. I was sitting in the car at the time charging my phone cuz the power was out. Scared the hell out of me. After that I got a new parking spot AWAY from the building. lol I never thought it would happen twice!! haha
Old 08-14-2020 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by hhrlei
Hi,

I'm new here and about to make the leap into HHR land. I've found two HHRs that are similar in KMs but a big difference in price...2k difference (Canuck here so for easy reference 100,000 km = 62,000 miles).

Here's the manual: 2009 Chevrolet HHR 2LT Leather Moon Roof for $5,900 in Niagara Falls | autoTRADER.ca

Here's the automatic:
https://ca.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-...ting=149788779

Both are fully loaded LT2. Other than the colour, the price and the different transmissions (I think that's how you describe auto vs manual...lol. Can you tell I'm female?) they are pretty equal.

I still have to get the CarProof / CarFax report for the automatic HHR. The manual car proof shows an estimate for 1300, which was for a front bumper repair when the car only had 30,000 km. No accident report on it.

I'll probably test drive both of them, but I'm kinda partial to the automatic. I'm older now. Manual shifting was fun in my 20s and 30s LOL.

thanks!
the slip a Matic is not very good they are known to break down. The five speed is the only way to go
Old 08-14-2020 | 03:04 PM
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You did note that the thread was from 2016, right.
Old 09-04-2020 | 09:27 AM
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there are too many types of automatics to make a simple comparison (dual clutch, ZF, etc), and manuals also differ so heavily in terms of engagement (the manual in my Type R is an absolute dream to use, while the manual in my old beater Sentra is just a horrid slush box).



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Old 09-04-2020 | 02:13 PM
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OK, so we’ve dusted off a timeless thread.

A couple points. First, corrosion from road salt is a huge determinant of how an older car will fare and can make it a very bad deal. When it’s not yet obvious and the car still looks nice, the future problems and curtailed life are not yet built into in the price because naive buyers don’t recognize that the car will literally begin falling apart in just a couple years.

Second, market value can be wildly different than asking price. Do not fall in love with a particular car. You can be the best negotiator in the world and still fail to get a particular car to a fair price. Don’t be the fool the seller is hoping for. Be ready to move on.
Old 09-04-2020 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PulpFriction
OK, so we’ve dusted off a timeless thread.

A couple points. First, corrosion from road salt is a huge determinant of how an older car will fare and can make it a very bad deal. When it’s not yet obvious and the car still looks nice, the future problems and curtailed life are not yet built into in the price because naive buyers don’t recognize that the car will literally begin falling apart in just a couple years.

Second, market value can be wildly different than asking price. Do not fall in love with a particular car. You can be the best negotiator in the world and still fail to get a particular car to a fair price. Don’t be the fool the seller is hoping for. Be ready to move on.
X 2.......... What he said..
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