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Old 11-29-2009 | 07:29 PM
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i work at a chevy dealer,if i rotated your tires i will relearn the tire positions,if you had your tiresd rotated somewhere else and they did not relearn them and you came to me,i would charge to relearn them.
Old 11-29-2009 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by automec
i work at a chevy dealer,if i rotated your tires i will relearn the tire positions,if you had your tiresd rotated somewhere else and they did not relearn them and you came to me,i would charge to relearn them.
Would you really charge a dude for such a small task? Maybe he wanted to rotate the tires himself and didn't know about having to re-learn. Gosh, if he's driving an SS he may have spent the $25,000 + at your dealership and this is what's keeping you employed. Sohelping him out on such a small thing will keep him coming back and keep you with a job for big and better things.

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Old 11-29-2009 | 10:24 PM
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I don't have time to take the car to the dealer, nor the patience to sit and wait for it, so the TPMS "game" was an easy choice for me. It's really not hard to do at all.

I rotated my tires twice so far. Programming the TPMS is almost game like and fun to do. If you're good at programming a VCR or Tivo, this should be a breeze.

It's basically pushing a couple of buttons on the RKE, letting some air out of each tire, then waiting for the horn to beep and the lights to flash; almost like it's "talking" to you.

I think it's easier to let the air out than to put it in while the sensors are learning their respective positions. I overinflate the tires to about 38-40psi before I start so that I can "zero in" on 32psi on the way down, after each sensor learned its postion.

The TPMS matching process is outlined below:

1. Set the parking brake.

2. Turn the ignition switch to ON/RUN with the
engine off.

3. Press and hold the Remote Keyless Entry (RKE)
transmitter’s LOCK and UNLOCK buttons, at the
same time, for about five seconds to start the TPMS
learn mode. The horn sounds twice indicating the
TPMS receiver is ready and in learn mode.

4. Start with the driver side front tire. The driver side
front turn signal also comes on to indicate that
corner’s sensor is ready to be learned.

5. Remove the valve cap from the tire’s valve stem.
Activate the TPMS sensor by increasing or
decreasing the tire’s air pressure for about
eight seconds. The horn chirp, can take up to
30 seconds to sound. It chirps one time and then
all the turn signals flash one time to confirm the
sensor identification code has been matched to the
tire/wheel position.

6. The passenger side front turn signal comes on to
indicate that corner sensor is ready to be learned.
Proceed to the passenger side front tire and
repeat the procedure in Step 5.

7. The passenger side rear turn signal comes on to
indicate that corner sensor is ready to be learned.
Proceed to the passenger side rear tire and
repeat the procedure in Step 5.

8. The driver side rear turn signal comes on to
indicate that corner sensor is ready to be learned.
Proceed to the driver side rear tire, and repeat
the procedure in Step 5.

9. After hearing the single horn chirp for the driver
side rear tire, two additional horn chirps sound to
indicate the tire learning process is done. Turn the
ignition switch to LOCK/OFF.
If no tires are learned after entering the TPMS
learn mode, or if communication with the receiver
stops, or if the time limit has expired, turn the
ignition switch to LOCK/OFF and start over
beginning with Step 2.

10. Set all four tires to the recommended air pressure
level as indicated on the Tire and Loading
Information label.
11. Put the valve caps back on the valve stems.
Old 12-02-2009 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 87silver
I don't have time to take the car to the dealer, nor the patience to sit and wait for it, so the TPMS "game" was an easy choice for me. It's really not hard to do at all.

I rotated my tires twice so far. Programming the TPMS is almost game like and fun to do. If you're good at programming a VCR or Tivo, this should be a breeze.

It's basically pushing a couple of buttons on the RKE, letting some air out of each tire, then waiting for the horn to beep and the lights to flash; almost like it's "talking" to you.

I think it's easier to let the air out than to put it in while the sensors are learning their respective positions. I overinflate the tires to about 38-40psi before I start so that I can "zero in" on 32psi on the way down, after each sensor learned its postion.

The TPMS matching process is outlined below:

1. Set the parking brake.

2. Turn the ignition switch to ON/RUN with the
engine off.

3. Press and hold the Remote Keyless Entry (RKE)
transmitter’s LOCK and UNLOCK buttons, at the
same time, for about five seconds to start the TPMS
learn mode. The horn sounds twice indicating the
TPMS receiver is ready and in learn mode.

4. Start with the driver side front tire. The driver side
front turn signal also comes on to indicate that
corner’s sensor is ready to be learned.

5. Remove the valve cap from the tire’s valve stem.
Activate the TPMS sensor by increasing or
decreasing the tire’s air pressure for about
eight seconds. The horn chirp, can take up to
30 seconds to sound. It chirps one time and then
all the turn signals flash one time to confirm the
sensor identification code has been matched to the
tire/wheel position.

6. The passenger side front turn signal comes on to
indicate that corner sensor is ready to be learned.
Proceed to the passenger side front tire and
repeat the procedure in Step 5.

7. The passenger side rear turn signal comes on to
indicate that corner sensor is ready to be learned.
Proceed to the passenger side rear tire and
repeat the procedure in Step 5.

8. The driver side rear turn signal comes on to
indicate that corner sensor is ready to be learned.
Proceed to the driver side rear tire, and repeat
the procedure in Step 5.

9. After hearing the single horn chirp for the driver
side rear tire, two additional horn chirps sound to
indicate the tire learning process is done. Turn the
ignition switch to LOCK/OFF.
If no tires are learned after entering the TPMS
learn mode, or if communication with the receiver
stops, or if the time limit has expired, turn the
ignition switch to LOCK/OFF and start over
beginning with Step 2.

10. Set all four tires to the recommended air pressure
level as indicated on the Tire and Loading
Information label.
11. Put the valve caps back on the valve stems.
Great info! Thanks for saving me a trip to my glovebox LOL. I copied and printed this out too BTW.
Old 12-02-2009 | 08:03 PM
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Yep, as hyper said, it's the GM chinese fire drill. Only takes a few minutes. If you don't have a compressor at home, try it at a gas station or tire shop that has free air...
Old 12-02-2009 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 87silver
The TPMS matching process is outlined below:

1. Set the parking brake.

2. Jump through first of many easy, but tedious hoops...

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852. If you're still awake, you can go to sleep now. You're done.
11. Put the valve caps back on the valve stems.
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The dealer has a much easier method than this tedious process, but it involves a fancy programmer thingie that you won't want to buy. IF you trust your dealer not to screw something up while the car is in their possession (I do not. The dealers in my area couldn't find their way out of a wet paper bag, even with a map), and IF you don't mind the 2 hour wait for this 15 minute task, and IF you don't mind the pseudo-ethical issue of "using up" limited resources (their staff) for trivial matters (this is the "going to the ER for an aspirin because you can" even if you've just displaced the guy behind you needed critical care), then go to the dealer. But, as others have suggested... know your car. Do this yourself. Take a bow for this brave new world you've decided to tackle.
Old 12-03-2009 | 06:41 AM
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It is so easy a cave man can do it!
Old 12-03-2009 | 10:02 AM
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It took me a lot more than 3-4 minutes, but that included getting all my tire pressures within 1 psi +/- of each other. That's the bigger challenge in my opinion. It was also a slower process because I had to read it step by step from the manual for the first time. It shouldn't be as time consuming next time.

One of the things that takes time is for the TPS to update its PSI reading when you are putting air in or taking air out of tire. It is not instantaneous, so you need to put a little air in and wait for the reading to catch up. Otherwise you over or under inflate the tires.
Old 12-03-2009 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jerSSey HHR
One of the things that takes time is for the TPS to update its PSI reading when you are putting air in or taking air out of tire. It is not instantaneous, so you need to put a little air in and wait for the reading to catch up. Otherwise you over or under inflate the tires.
Jerssey, use a tire gage to get you in the ballpark! Relaying on the TPMS to fill the tires is waaaaaay to time consuming. Besides I have noticed the the TPMS (both factory and aftermarket) are off by 1 - 2 psi. I am using a craftsman digital gage that is much more accurate. I also verified this with the electronic thingamajig at Discount tire.
Old 12-03-2009 | 06:20 PM
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Seeing how I am having to "top" off the tires anyways I just dump the air til the TPS synch's then bring it back up with an air gage....asimple and time effective...no sense trying to synch it with the up fill, too long and as said tend to overshoot...Use the gage and "note" the DIC to monitor air pressures on the road..



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