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Old 12-09-2009 | 10:04 AM
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Not a bad tire. BFG is owned and built by Michelin, so you know the technology is still good. Not a very high mileage tire and they do make a bit of noise in the rain. For 75 bucks I think you will be happy with them.
Old 12-11-2009 | 04:43 PM
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Best tires for the money. Wife has installed them on the last two cars, motherinlaw the same. I am putting them on mine this week. Great in dry, awsome in wet, and in snow. And they are not expensive either.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....&autoModel=HHR LS&autoModClar=Panel Sport Wagon

A true win win.
Old 12-11-2009 | 06:16 PM
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I got 20 years out of a set of All Terrain T/A's before I had a tread separation event while towing my Samurai behind my motorhome. Luckily there were no catastrophic results. Its' my fault running tires of that age, but it shows the resilience of BFG TA tires. I’d buy T/A’s again in a heartbeat. The Samurai has about 60k on the odo today.

Old 12-11-2009 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by calgaryhhr
For a few extra bucks I would recommend the Goodyear Assurance Tripletred. I posted a brief review of them in another thread a few days ago.

I was going to have a set of Traction T/A's put on my mom's Impala last month but the guy at Costco recommended the Michelin X-radials instead. He said a lot of people weren't really happy with the T/A's even though they are pretty well reviewed on TireRack. The X-radials were about the same price as the T/A's at Costco.
So close in performance, so why spend $40 extra per tire for the GY TT?
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes

Like I said for the money, these tires cant be beat.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes
Old 12-11-2009 | 07:08 PM
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if you subscribe to consumer reports, they have some really good rating profiles
Old 12-11-2009 | 07:21 PM
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if you subscribe to consumer reports, they have some really good rating profiles

Dry braking - very good

Wet braking - very good

Handling - very good

Hydroplaning - very good

Snow traction - good

Ice braking

Ride comfort - good

Noise - very good

Rolling resistance - fair

Tread life - good
Old 12-11-2009 | 08:03 PM
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I used to do work for BFG/Michelin/Uniroyal, General/Contenental, Hoosier, Goodyear, Handkook and Firestone at my last job.

We used to deal with a lot of prototype tires and engineers. I was able to learn alot from them over the time and tires. We worked with them on mock up's directly with the TA Team as it used to be called.

The traction TA is a good tire while it is not the best it is a good tire. From what I know of it compared to the Goodyear is it will mostly give you less miles and a little less traction in all but dry conditions.

The Comp that came with my GTP were of the same tread design and were good in snow but not as good as the Goodyear I now have on. The tread wear was horrible. This to be fair may have had more to do with the Comp's V speed rating than anything since V rated tires are noted for faster wear. This is one reason to avoid V and Z ratings unless needed.

The Goodyear in most reliable test have shown to be the class leader as of now in this type of tire. As far as I can see they are worth the extra money if you can afford it. If you can't the TA is a very acceptable sub. Think of it as a HHR SS vs a HHR LT. It is a win win either way.

Note just in total extra wear miles and with the often done $40 rebate on a set of 4 Goodyear tires the price and value of the Goodyears is a little closer.

As for Consumer Reports. Don't get me started on them.

By the way Goodyear, Bridgestone and Michelin are like car companies. They each have good and bad lines of tires. What ever is the newest is usally the best or better tire. They all often keep older lines running to offer a lower priced tire since the new tend to be always more. The key it to look for the newest tread and compound designs to get the better tire. Compounding is where most new tires are making the greatest advances.

A lot more goes into tires than just rubber with grooves. If you have never seen what they do to engineer a tire check it out. Also to watch them hand build each one is another thing to see. My Grandfather was a tire builder years ago and even today the work is not much eaiser. A little Cleaner but not much easier.

Even my buddy who still builds Indy tires does his share of hard work and the stress of zero error quality.
Old 12-11-2009 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by allman
if you subscribe to consumer reports, they have some really good rating profiles
Gee, I didn't know that BF Goodrich was now a Japanese company. But obviously it must be.
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