Yes, I know the performance difference between the 5spd and auto. You missed my comment about working for the chicklet, not a Chevy but a Chevrolet company. And have install/development validation experience with both the supercharged and turbo 4 cyl. And my only comment was FWD ain't going to better AWD in 60ft.

I've seen 2.0l locally dyno to the north of 350 wheel horsepower. Anyway.....

 

oh no doubt,awd wins the 60ft. battle 2.0 lnf or boxter??? not saying wrx/sti can't,but it ain't easy to get high hp from them.

 

Sorry, I lost my train of thought as da wifey summoned me in mid sentence. I meant 2.0l lnf. And I agree it isn't easy to obtain high HP from the boxter engine. It has been done, but not cheaply.

 

Agreed, an old friend owned a shop in Staten Island that catered to Subarus. He owns an '05 or '06 STI that made over 605 hp to the wheels, but that was done w/ a JDM EJ25 block, fully ported head, meth injection, and a serious snail under the hood. That's only part of the laundry list of what he'd done, just to name a "few" things.

Later
Allex

 

may be slightly of topic but the here a cool video (page down) about the build up potential of the WRX. saw this a while ago, figure I'd share it.

http://www.automotiveaddicts.com/696...subaru-wrx-sti

 

Ha...some of you guys are funny.
My two cents on this AWD debate.
Two cars, roughly same horsepower, one is either FWD or RWD, the other AWD. The AWD will smoke the FWD-RWD car every time, hands down.
Back in 1990, I had a AWD Eagle Talon, heavly modded with Archer Racing engine and susp. parts. Talon put out 375 H.P. w/18 lbs boost.
I lost track of the cars that I blew their doors off, some friends with RWD drive ,400-500 H.P. rides, and all were top notch drivers. The Talon easily ran low 12 sec. quarter mile times, w/ air con on, a few times high elevens of a good cool night.
AWD puts down twice the amount of tire on the ground, so do the math. I would hook up almost twice as hard as a RWD car, and FWD cars need not apply. Have lots of experience with AWD cars, and I know what they are capably of. Same horsepower, AWD will hand you your lunch, every time.
So quit trying to blow smoke up my rear end. I know better. "Moon"

 

Well this is what I have learned from out Street Rod we have at work.

We have a 32 Ford with 650 HP lingenfelter power under the hood. It has a Syclone front drive system and a ZR1 rear set up. Even the drive shafts are titainium. The car is very light and fast.

We learned the AWD is great for 0-60 times at 3 seconds. We at one point held the record for Car and Driver testing.

But in the 1/4 mile the AWD was slower. They system was dyno'd to take over 150+ HP to drive the front system. If we take the drive shaft out and just run it RWD it has a slower 60 FT time but a much faster 1/4 mles time.

Many of the new AWD systems are much more efficent with the clutch drive systems so they are getting better. But AWD still takes power to run it. So there are many benefits to AWD but there are some draw backs too. As time passed the new systems will only get better.

The Haldex AWD GM is now using us a very good wold class system. Now only if they can make it cheaper.

 

whatever....look,everyone knows from a dig awd owns EVERYTHING,for 60'ft anyway. now taking the lnf out of this, lets see an awd get away from a zr1...besides,in 1990,unless you were a PRO,runnin 15's was fast. hell i remmeber the "13sec" club. so saying you blew doors off of whatever DO NOT impress me. most cars at that time were slow compared to what we have now. the gn,typhoon,syclone's were beast and still are. a couple of years after 1990(92+) came the super car era(mk4 supra,300tt,vr4,etc)yes the first gen talon was/is fast. my friend has one and mr.buscher proved that they can be fast. however,the weight of the awd systems and the weight of cars itself in todays subies and evo's makes them suspect. i had some jump out on me and i reeled them before an 1/8mile(from a dig). so in closing,as stated in other post,they can rape alot of cars,but if they are not highly moddified and going against a fwd that is moddified,then fwd WILL win. my 325hp vs 250-275 assuming exhaust is on,will win....YES HE WILL WIN THE 60FT RACE,BUT THAT'S IT.

 

Your talon was fast running 12s modded. No disrespect but for the 60' times that should have been putting down thats a joke. Just as you said moon... it has twice the tire to the ground, but will take twice as much to turn those tires too. Which is why these guys on here are stating that they could run down an awd system evo or sti from a dig in the qm. after that 60' its an even playground. I've ran down cars that ate my 60' by trap speeds. That talon your talking about probably picked on the early junk series hondas and slow extremely heavy muscle cars like the pusstang. Gaurentee the GrandNational would rape your eagle if it was just slighty modded on that cool night your talking about. AWD is awesome yet not superior or inferior in the whole qm. Makes one hell of a rally car though.

 

Looks like someone got a case of the A--, over my post. Guess they did'nt read it very well.
As I stated, the Talon was heavly modded[by Archer Bros. Racing] and by their claim, put out 375 H.P. at the wheels. I ran the car at the drag strip many time over the years I had it, and it ran low twelves and a few high elevens on a regular basis[as many here in Nor-cal will atest to].
I'm not one to try and blow smoke up anyones rear end, only stating the facts.
I'm not some young guy with limited experience, and have spent over forty years, both in and around drag cars, sprint cars, and bikes. I have a lot of wheel time, and know a little about what I say, from many years experience.
Whether anyone chooses to believe it or not is up to them, and does'nt bother me, with statementst of "whatever". I consider the source[man, could I go there!].
I also have to state that by a lot of the posts on here, from the younger crowd, that they get their jollies off by street racing, and not by going to the drag strip, where they can see just how good they are on the lights, and just how fast their cars really are on the scoreboard. Ain't no "Dig" or "Roll" there, it's man against man, put up or shut up.
Now, in closing, anyone has any more questions, feel free to PM me, and I'll give them my phone number, and we can talk. "Moon"