It Was 10 Years Ago This Month.
04-14-2014, 11:01 PM
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I had vaguely remembered something about the scrambling to fold Pontiac into the Truck & Bus Division(dated myself there), but that the continued per unit losses on the "Tin Indians" made the situation impractical.
And you're so right about Chinese sales bolstering Buick. The Buick brand has been considered a "Premium Mark" since the days of Chiang Kai-shek and his predecessor Sun Yat-sen.
Even with Mao's Cultural Revolution, the Chinese cultural memory made for a prime market after Mao's death and the opening of free trade.
And you're so right about Chinese sales bolstering Buick. The Buick brand has been considered a "Premium Mark" since the days of Chiang Kai-shek and his predecessor Sun Yat-sen.
Even with Mao's Cultural Revolution, the Chinese cultural memory made for a prime market after Mao's death and the opening of free trade.
04-16-2014, 09:39 AM
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RIP Oldsmobile. I had an Intrigue that I bought new in 1998, and I just loved that car. It was my first (and only) "grown-up car" purchase... The van and SUV since were not mine after all.
Olds definitely was getting their act together but GM had too many overlapping cars to have made it work. If they could have shrunken Buick, Pontiac, and Olds down to a couple of vehicles each, that might have worked, but the dealers would have flipped their lids.
Olds definitely was getting their act together but GM had too many overlapping cars to have made it work. If they could have shrunken Buick, Pontiac, and Olds down to a couple of vehicles each, that might have worked, but the dealers would have flipped their lids.
04-17-2014, 08:47 AM
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In reality, GM consists of Chevrolet and Cadillac since the powertrains became 'corporate'.
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I'm doing a little 'what if' project of my own.... 'what if' Pontiac wanted to enter the van market in the 60's instead of the late 80's.....
I'm putting a Pontiac OHC 6
Into this
with a few Pontiac cues here and there...
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I'm doing a little 'what if' project of my own.... 'what if' Pontiac wanted to enter the van market in the 60's instead of the late 80's.....
I'm putting a Pontiac OHC 6
Into this
with a few Pontiac cues here and there...
04-18-2014, 05:54 PM
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That decade went fast, and even down here in "The Land That Rust Forgot", you just don't see many Oldsmobiles on the road.
Well except the old A-Body Cutlass Ciera's, those never die, and their owners all seem to be north of 80 years old.
Maybe they know something we don't. Drive a Cutlass Ciera, never exceed 30mph, and live forever.
And why are they always white?
Well except the old A-Body Cutlass Ciera's, those never die, and their owners all seem to be north of 80 years old.
Maybe they know something we don't. Drive a Cutlass Ciera, never exceed 30mph, and live forever.
And why are they always white?
With GM and Ford both closing their Australian factories by 2016, Holden will become rebadged American and Korean assembled Chevrolets.
Ford will begin exporting various American assembled models to Australia, both companies say it makes sense economically. The Australians are furious, and despondent.
The Chevrolet SS and Caprice PPV will eventually be killed off, and despite teases over the last twenty years, no "Utes" will come here either as El Camino's of Ranchero's(For the Ford fans).
Detroit and Dearborn have decided to turn Australia over to Toyota, Mazda, and Honda.
Ford will begin exporting various American assembled models to Australia, both companies say it makes sense economically. The Australians are furious, and despondent.
The Chevrolet SS and Caprice PPV will eventually be killed off, and despite teases over the last twenty years, no "Utes" will come here either as El Camino's of Ranchero's(For the Ford fans).
Detroit and Dearborn have decided to turn Australia over to Toyota, Mazda, and Honda.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-1...ources/5250114
RIP Oldsmobile. I had an Intrigue that I bought new in 1998, and I just loved that car. It was my first (and only) "grown-up car" purchase... The van and SUV since were not mine after all.
Olds definitely was getting their act together but GM had too many overlapping cars to have made it work. If they could have shrunken Buick, Pontiac, and Olds down to a couple of vehicles each, that might have worked, but the dealers would have flipped their lids.
Olds definitely was getting their act together but GM had too many overlapping cars to have made it work. If they could have shrunken Buick, Pontiac, and Olds down to a couple of vehicles each, that might have worked, but the dealers would have flipped their lids.
I agree Olds was definitely getting its act together when GM pulled the plug. It's just a shame that GM couldn't make it work. Had they stayed in business we would've seen the OSV cars make it to production, possibly an Alero convertible, and who knows what a new Oldsmobile would of looked like today, but based on where the brand was heading it looked promising. That's for sure. It was an automaker that had its life end way to soon.
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