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Old 11-15-2006, 07:20 AM
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American Suicide

I just got this on email. I have not looked into it's validity or not. But it's a good read.

Please be civil.

Interesting.



WORTH READING AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN!!!!
HOW DID WE GET LED SO FAR DOWN THE PATH????



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FOR THOSE OF YOU ON THE "CONSERVATIVE" SIDE OF THE FENCE, READ THIS AND LEARN TO UNDERSTAND YOUR FEELINGS BETTER THAN EVER.

FOR THOSE OF YOU NOT ON THE "CONSERVATIVE" SIDE OF THE FENCE, READ AND LEARN FROM A DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT.

Please take the time to read this; it ought to scare the pants off you!

We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of America's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, "Mexifornia," explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"

"Here is how they do it," Lamm said: "First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country." History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: "The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy." Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans."

Lamm went on: Second, to destroy America, "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

Third, "We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: "The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together." Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

"Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."

"My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."

"My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" -- >From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'Unum,' we will balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

"Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate. Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."

In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said,. "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book "Mexifornia." His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America. deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book."

There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed.. Over
100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.' American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America - take note of California and other states - to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength."

Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path especially The American Dream.

If you care for and love our country as I do, take the time to pass this on just as I did for you. Trust me NOTHING is going to happen if you don't !
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Great! Let's make Americans even more xenophobic. Conservatives suck donkey balls. :twothumbs What ever happened to the land of freedom and opportunity for all?
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Originally Posted by captain howdy
Great! Let's make Americans even more xenophobic. Conservatives suck donkey balls. :twothumbs What ever happened to the land of freedom and opportunity for all?
exactly

and sometimes those conservatives are the worst ones....just like the republicans sex scandals involving children and gay prostitues hehe lol
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Old 11-15-2006, 11:21 AM
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Have You Ever Noticed That Liberals Cant Have A Civil Discussion , All They Can Do Is Call People Names And Throw Insults/ It Starts With The Leadership All The Way Down To The Drones.they Criticize The War And Say We Need To Have A New Direction , But Offer No New Directions .p[eople Who Criticize But Offer No Solutions Are Worthless ! You Guys Must Not Have Read The Post Or Maybe It Was To Complex For You To Understand ! O.k Now You Can Throw Insults At Me . You Are Unbelievable !!
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Arguing politics on the internet is pointless. Liberals suck donkey balls also. :twothumbs Is that better?
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Originally Posted by DYLANSHHR
A Have You Ever Noticed That Liberals Cant Have A Civil Discussion , All They Can Do Is Call People Names And Throw Insults/ It Starts With The Leadership All The Way Down To The Drones.

B they Criticize The War And Say We Need To Have A New Direction , But Offer No New Directions .

C p[eople Who Criticize But Offer No Solutions Are Worthless !

You Guys Must Not Have Read The Post Or Maybe It Was To Complex For You To Understand !

O.k Now You Can Throw Insults At Me . You Are Unbelievable !!
ok then, lets see...
A...and the neo-cons/conservatives dont do the same?

B.. a war built on lies, why shouldnt we criticize it? yes new direction, leave, or if not, tell bush to take his ball sout of his wife purse, or where ever he has them, and just run over the whole damn country over there and get this **** over with

C.. yes a solution to immigration....lets stop the illegals from coming, sure..but the ones who are already here, and workinig hard to maintain a family not only here, but in a poor country like mexico should be given legal status to stay here, just like the bracero program of old, now the criminals, hell yes boot them the hell out of here, if not, another solution, conscript them into military service, they get busted they got a choice; go into the service and get a legal status or get the hell out, and that goes for us americans too, same way they sorta did it in vietnam

and no one is insulting you, but that post is the same old crap ppl keep spitting out....if its valid, then american had been destroyed ever since the europeans came here in the 1700s, making it a "bilingual" country....same as when allthe immigrants came in the late 1800s and early 1900s....
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Originally Posted by captain howdy
Arguing politics on the internet is pointless. Liberals suck donkey balls also. :twothumbs Is that better?

lol

i mean i dont really care about all this crap anyway.... i just live my life and not really care about it, as long as im getting paid, i care less
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Boy this wasnt a good thread to start...haha...

2 things you should never discuss within a group is Politics and Religon. It never turns out good.

Personally I dont care if people from other countries come over here. I do think they should do it legally and if they do not want to go that route then they should not be given any benefits and when caught should be sent back. This is the land and the free and is open to anyone but every country has to have guidelines on who they allow to live there
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Originally Posted by DYLANSHHR
Have You Ever Noticed That Liberals Cant Have A Civil Discussion , All They Can Do Is Call People Names And Throw Insults/ It Starts With The Leadership All The Way Down To The Drones.they Criticize The War And Say We Need To Have A New Direction , But Offer No New Directions .p[eople Who Criticize But Offer No Solutions Are Worthless ! You Guys Must Not Have Read The Post Or Maybe It Was To Complex For You To Understand ! O.k Now You Can Throw Insults At Me . You Are Unbelievable !!
Formatted so that my head doesn't hurt and posted as a courtesy to others:

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Have you ever noticed that liberals can’t have a civil discussion? All they can do is call people names and throw insults. It starts with the leadership all the way down to the drones. They criticize the war and say we need to have a new direction, but offer no new directions. People who criticize but offer no solutions are worthless! You guys must not have read the post or maybe it was to complex for you to understand! O.K. Now you can throw insults at me. You are unbelievable!!

If you are going to spend the time posting such a passionate response, why not format it so that it is easier to read?

As for the content, I am not touching this. I never discuss politics, religion or economics with people that I like.
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