GM Bankruptcy
05-27-2009, 05:13 PM
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05-28-2009, 10:32 AM
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05-29-2009, 09:10 AM
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ooks like it a for sure thing.
DETROIT – The speed at which General Motors Corp. exits bankruptcy protection would depend a lot on the shape the company is in when it enters. GM has three more days to tidy up.
Bankruptcy experts say the more operational, labor and financial concessions the automaker gets lined up in advance of its likely Chapter 11 reorganization, the faster the ailing automaker can emerge a leaner, stronger company — one that will be nearly three-quarters-owned by taxpayers.
More pieces started coming together Thursday after a bloc of GM's biggest bondholders agreed to the Treasury Department's sweetened deal to wipe out $27 billion of the automaker's unsecured debt in exchange for company stock.
Workers across the country won't know until Monday which 14 plants GM will close, shedding 21,000 more jobs, but an announcement on the fate of GM's Hummer brand is expected Friday, when talks are scheduled to resume in Germany about the future of GM's European Opel unit.
GM's union employees also finish voting Friday on whether to ratify a modified contract that would cut some of their benefits but slash the automaker's labor costs.
And GM's board of directors will begin two days of meetings to decide what the automaker will do when its government restructuring deadline arrives Monday.
A person familiar with GM's plans said it was "probable" that the company would file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection Monday. The person did not want to be identified because the plans were still under discussion with the U.S. and Canadian governments.
GM's new road map, outlined in a regulatory filing Thursday, would briefly send the automaker into bankruptcy protection, erase most of its debt and eventually have it emerge leaner and stronger.
A senior Obama administration official estimated that GM would be under bankruptcy protection for 60 to 90 days, longer than Chrysler's expected reorganization because GM is bigger and more complex. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the negotiations.
The U.S. Treasury, which already has loaned GM $19.4 billion, would get 72.5 percent of the new company's stock and provide $30 billion in additional financing to keep the new GM operating under bankruptcy protection.
Canada's government is expected to provide an additional $9 billion, the administration official said.
A United Auto Workers trust that will take over retiree health care expenses will get 17.5 percent, and the old GM, effectively owned by the bondholders, would get a 10 percent stake.
GM's existing shareholders will probably lose everything.
"It's fair to say that there would be little to no recovery," the official said.
The proposal is similar to what has happened to Chrysler, already under Chapter 11 protection. A bankruptcy judge is expected to decide Friday whether to approve the sale of most of its assets to Italian carmaker Fiat Group SpA.
The administration official said that although the government hopes to get back as much of the money loaned to GM and Chrysler as possible, it never envisioned recovering much of the initial $13.4 billion in aid.
Eventually, the government hopes, GM can return to profitability, which would allow the government to sell its GM stock. But the risks for taxpayers are daunting, with U.S. auto sales near their lowest level in 27 years.
"We will come out of this rid of some of the historic legacy costs that have been dragging us down for the last 20 years or so," GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said Thursday at an Automotive Press Association luncheon in Detroit. "We will come out of it with an all new focus on product development."
Under the government's offer, bondholders would get 10 percent of the stock in a newly formed GM, the same as a proposal that they shunned earlier this week. But the new offer also gives them warrants to buy an additional 15 percent stake, possibly at a discount.
That would come only if they agree to support selling GM's assets to a new company under bankruptcy court protection.
The revised offer amounted to an ultimatum: Go along with the government auto task force's proposal or face substantial reduction in the amount of stock and warrants they will get.
"They have sweetened the deal by adding the warrants to the equation," said Pete Hastings, senior analyst with Morgan Keegan & Co. "It's enough for me to have moved from rejecting the deal and trying our luck in bankruptcy court to the side of recommending the deal."
A bloc of bondholders who represent about 20 percent of GM's $27 billion in unsecured debt called the deal unfair but said they'll take it rather than roll the dice in bankruptcy court and risk getting even less.
Two coalition of smaller bondholders, meanwhile, opposed the offer, saying it remained unfair to retirees who depend on GM bonds for income and was overly favorable to the UAW.
Union President Ron Gettelfinger said in a telephone interview he did not want to get into a debate with bondholders while the union was pushing for ratification of concessions to GM. Union members were to wrap up voting Friday.
The filing didn't specify how many bondholders would be needed to make the deal work. The government had demanded that 90 percent agree to the previous offer, and it fell far short. The Obama administration official said the government would not require a specific percentage of bondholders to approve the new proposal but would make a judgment call based on the level of support.
Representatives of the committee of larger bondholders were trying to contact the thousands of GM bondholders before a deadline of 5 p.m. Saturday.
The government plan envisions the slimmed-down new GM with $17 billion in long-term debt and $9 billion in debt-like preferred shares. That would be 61 percent less than its debt load now.
Only $8 billion of the existing U.S. government loans would remain on the books. The remainder would be converted into equity and preferred shares.
The Obama administration official said the holders of GM's $6 billion in secured debt would be "protected" but declined to elaborate.
Trading of GM shares was halted for a short time Thursday morning. They fell 3 cents to end at $1.12 after a day of volatile trading.
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Associated Press Writer Ken Thomas in Washington contributed to this report.
DETROIT – The speed at which General Motors Corp. exits bankruptcy protection would depend a lot on the shape the company is in when it enters. GM has three more days to tidy up.
Bankruptcy experts say the more operational, labor and financial concessions the automaker gets lined up in advance of its likely Chapter 11 reorganization, the faster the ailing automaker can emerge a leaner, stronger company — one that will be nearly three-quarters-owned by taxpayers.
More pieces started coming together Thursday after a bloc of GM's biggest bondholders agreed to the Treasury Department's sweetened deal to wipe out $27 billion of the automaker's unsecured debt in exchange for company stock.
Workers across the country won't know until Monday which 14 plants GM will close, shedding 21,000 more jobs, but an announcement on the fate of GM's Hummer brand is expected Friday, when talks are scheduled to resume in Germany about the future of GM's European Opel unit.
GM's union employees also finish voting Friday on whether to ratify a modified contract that would cut some of their benefits but slash the automaker's labor costs.
And GM's board of directors will begin two days of meetings to decide what the automaker will do when its government restructuring deadline arrives Monday.
A person familiar with GM's plans said it was "probable" that the company would file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection Monday. The person did not want to be identified because the plans were still under discussion with the U.S. and Canadian governments.
GM's new road map, outlined in a regulatory filing Thursday, would briefly send the automaker into bankruptcy protection, erase most of its debt and eventually have it emerge leaner and stronger.
A senior Obama administration official estimated that GM would be under bankruptcy protection for 60 to 90 days, longer than Chrysler's expected reorganization because GM is bigger and more complex. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the negotiations.
The U.S. Treasury, which already has loaned GM $19.4 billion, would get 72.5 percent of the new company's stock and provide $30 billion in additional financing to keep the new GM operating under bankruptcy protection.
Canada's government is expected to provide an additional $9 billion, the administration official said.
A United Auto Workers trust that will take over retiree health care expenses will get 17.5 percent, and the old GM, effectively owned by the bondholders, would get a 10 percent stake.
GM's existing shareholders will probably lose everything.
"It's fair to say that there would be little to no recovery," the official said.
The proposal is similar to what has happened to Chrysler, already under Chapter 11 protection. A bankruptcy judge is expected to decide Friday whether to approve the sale of most of its assets to Italian carmaker Fiat Group SpA.
The administration official said that although the government hopes to get back as much of the money loaned to GM and Chrysler as possible, it never envisioned recovering much of the initial $13.4 billion in aid.
Eventually, the government hopes, GM can return to profitability, which would allow the government to sell its GM stock. But the risks for taxpayers are daunting, with U.S. auto sales near their lowest level in 27 years.
"We will come out of this rid of some of the historic legacy costs that have been dragging us down for the last 20 years or so," GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said Thursday at an Automotive Press Association luncheon in Detroit. "We will come out of it with an all new focus on product development."
Under the government's offer, bondholders would get 10 percent of the stock in a newly formed GM, the same as a proposal that they shunned earlier this week. But the new offer also gives them warrants to buy an additional 15 percent stake, possibly at a discount.
That would come only if they agree to support selling GM's assets to a new company under bankruptcy court protection.
The revised offer amounted to an ultimatum: Go along with the government auto task force's proposal or face substantial reduction in the amount of stock and warrants they will get.
"They have sweetened the deal by adding the warrants to the equation," said Pete Hastings, senior analyst with Morgan Keegan & Co. "It's enough for me to have moved from rejecting the deal and trying our luck in bankruptcy court to the side of recommending the deal."
A bloc of bondholders who represent about 20 percent of GM's $27 billion in unsecured debt called the deal unfair but said they'll take it rather than roll the dice in bankruptcy court and risk getting even less.
Two coalition of smaller bondholders, meanwhile, opposed the offer, saying it remained unfair to retirees who depend on GM bonds for income and was overly favorable to the UAW.
Union President Ron Gettelfinger said in a telephone interview he did not want to get into a debate with bondholders while the union was pushing for ratification of concessions to GM. Union members were to wrap up voting Friday.
The filing didn't specify how many bondholders would be needed to make the deal work. The government had demanded that 90 percent agree to the previous offer, and it fell far short. The Obama administration official said the government would not require a specific percentage of bondholders to approve the new proposal but would make a judgment call based on the level of support.
Representatives of the committee of larger bondholders were trying to contact the thousands of GM bondholders before a deadline of 5 p.m. Saturday.
The government plan envisions the slimmed-down new GM with $17 billion in long-term debt and $9 billion in debt-like preferred shares. That would be 61 percent less than its debt load now.
Only $8 billion of the existing U.S. government loans would remain on the books. The remainder would be converted into equity and preferred shares.
The Obama administration official said the holders of GM's $6 billion in secured debt would be "protected" but declined to elaborate.
Trading of GM shares was halted for a short time Thursday morning. They fell 3 cents to end at $1.12 after a day of volatile trading.
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Associated Press Writer Ken Thomas in Washington contributed to this report.
05-29-2009, 11:15 AM
#28
Well it's official... my dealer is closing today. Like I said before, all of their cars were taken away on May 1st, but they were claiming they were getting a new financing company...yeah, sure... So they haven't been selling cars, but have still been doing service work, body work, and selling parts. Anyways, I went up today to get a speedometer gear for my truck, and the guy working told me he couldn't order one, because they were closing today. It looked pretty empty in there...they were cleaning out all of the tools and equipment.
Pretty sad... My family has bought most of our cars from them. They've been a dealer in Frankenmuth since the 1920's I believe. It's really a shame because I really liked their service department. So friendly and nice, and could get you in right away. Now I'll have to drive to another town.... I feel really bad for all of the people who worked there, especially for years. Many started there right out of high school, and that's all they've known....
Pretty sad... My family has bought most of our cars from them. They've been a dealer in Frankenmuth since the 1920's I believe. It's really a shame because I really liked their service department. So friendly and nice, and could get you in right away. Now I'll have to drive to another town.... I feel really bad for all of the people who worked there, especially for years. Many started there right out of high school, and that's all they've known....
05-29-2009, 06:54 PM
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Well it's official... my dealer is closing today. Like I said before, all of their cars were taken away on May 1st, but they were claiming they were getting a new financing company...yeah, sure... So they haven't been selling cars, but have still been doing service work, body work, and selling parts. Anyways, I went up today to get a speedometer gear for my truck, and the guy working told me he couldn't order one, because they were closing today. It looked pretty empty in there...they were cleaning out all of the tools and equipment.
Pretty sad... My family has bought most of our cars from them. They've been a dealer in Frankenmuth since the 1920's I believe. It's really a shame because I really liked their service department. So friendly and nice, and could get you in right away. Now I'll have to drive to another town.... I feel really bad for all of the people who worked there, especially for years. Many started there right out of high school, and that's all they've known....
Pretty sad... My family has bought most of our cars from them. They've been a dealer in Frankenmuth since the 1920's I believe. It's really a shame because I really liked their service department. So friendly and nice, and could get you in right away. Now I'll have to drive to another town.... I feel really bad for all of the people who worked there, especially for years. Many started there right out of high school, and that's all they've known....
05-29-2009, 07:15 PM
#30
Yep...Zehnder Chevrolet in Frankenmuth.