What Do You Think of Al Gore's Nobel Peace Prize?
10-14-2007, 08:14 PM
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No, you're just continuing the status quo and helping keep America's dependence on foreign oil at current levels or potentially beyond.
"Patriotic" is about doing what's best for your country, among other things. Sometimes it requires personal sacrifices or compromises. But plenty of people are too selfish to make a compromise for the common good of their community or nation.
Sometimes it seems that a lot of Americans are much better at self-indulgence than they are at self-sacrifice.
"Patriotic" is about doing what's best for your country, among other things. Sometimes it requires personal sacrifices or compromises. But plenty of people are too selfish to make a compromise for the common good of their community or nation.
Sometimes it seems that a lot of Americans are much better at self-indulgence than they are at self-sacrifice.
It was sarcasm. More of a joke than anything. 
The humor comes in it being sort of true.......That's why the Japanese started making big ass trucks. 
As far as the foreign dependence on oil thing. That's all hippie political crap too. Lets drain the middle east dry of all their oil. It would be good for America in the long run. Then we could no longer view any of the middle east as a threat because all they'll be left with is sand and we'll still be sitting on our own untapped oil reserves. 
10-14-2007, 09:14 PM
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Maybe, maybe not. But if said SUV is a guzzler, as quite a few are, then cumulatively all drivers/choosers of guzzlers are doing their part to maintain America's current level of dependency on foreign oil imports, and all the political implications thereof.
I say let's all pull together and each motoring American put fuel efficiency at the top of their priority list when buying their next vehicle. The HHR is an excellent example of downsizing and staying in an SUV (or wagon or whatever our HHR officially is) and making a choice to conserve fuel by intelligent/prudent buying. For example, choosing a Saturn Vue, HHR, Toyota RAV4, Honda Element (fugly but to each their own...), over choosing a trailblazer, tahoe, explorer, durango, expedition, pilot, 4runner...well you get the idea. Instead of doing it for emissions (CO2, etc.) do it for the patriotism of helping lower the USA's foreign oil addiction. We can never stop importing foreign oil anytime soon, but there is little doubt that demand can and would be reduced if people would make more fuel efficient choices.
I say let's all pull together and each motoring American put fuel efficiency at the top of their priority list when buying their next vehicle. The HHR is an excellent example of downsizing and staying in an SUV (or wagon or whatever our HHR officially is) and making a choice to conserve fuel by intelligent/prudent buying. For example, choosing a Saturn Vue, HHR, Toyota RAV4, Honda Element (fugly but to each their own...), over choosing a trailblazer, tahoe, explorer, durango, expedition, pilot, 4runner...well you get the idea. Instead of doing it for emissions (CO2, etc.) do it for the patriotism of helping lower the USA's foreign oil addiction. We can never stop importing foreign oil anytime soon, but there is little doubt that demand can and would be reduced if people would make more fuel efficient choices.
10-14-2007, 09:16 PM
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Lighten up a little Captain Planet. It was sarcasm. More of a joke than anything. The humor comes in it being sort of true.......That's why the Japanese started making big ass trucks. As far as the foreign dependence on oil thing. That's all hippie political crap too. Lets drain the middle east dry of all their oil. It would be good for America in the long run. Then we could no longer view any of the middle east as a threat because all they'll be left with is sand and we'll still be sitting on our own untapped oil reserves.
It was sarcasm. More of a joke than anything. The humor comes in it being sort of true.......That's why the Japanese started making big ass trucks. As far as the foreign dependence on oil thing. That's all hippie political crap too. Lets drain the middle east dry of all their oil. It would be good for America in the long run. Then we could no longer view any of the middle east as a threat because all they'll be left with is sand and we'll still be sitting on our own untapped oil reserves.
10-14-2007, 10:30 PM
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There is actually a lot of truth in this. That's why some of the smaller countries are building all of the exotic vacation places for the ultra rich, their oil reserves are quickly running out!!
10-14-2007, 10:52 PM
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I don't think there is much of as an oil shortage as environmentalist and politicians make it seem. Lets say we did use up all of the oil in the ground, there is still non-conventional oil. Its just that the refining process isn't that eco friendly so nobody seems to want to push or mention it. At this point of my life I have realized that it's impossible to have an intelligent discussion with an eco warrior because they have to be the most smug self-righteous group of people on the planet. They buy into every bit of eco propaganda out there so even if you have hard scientific evidence and facts to back up your side they don't listen. Your ideas and truths are never good enough when you're not doing your part to save our planet and our future generations. 
It's like trying to convince a religious person that there is no God. You can argue until your blue in the face using logic but the person just isn't going to listen based on faith. Same difference.
It's like trying to convince a religious person that there is no God. You can argue until your blue in the face using logic but the person just isn't going to listen based on faith. Same difference.
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10-15-2007, 05:55 PM
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