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Old 11-15-2023 | 09:14 AM
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Looking for an engine

Hi,
I have a 2010 HHR LT that I need an engine for. My mechanic told me there is a misfire internally within the engine. And it would be better to replace the engine, he quoted me $5k for a new engine. I'm trying to shop around and see what I can find and where. Any information would be appreciated.

​​​​​Thank you.

This is Ol' Blue.
Old 11-15-2023 | 10:13 AM
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What does " a misfire internally within the engine" mean? That sounds like BS to me. There must be a better description, because that means nothing and is not possible. If that is really what the mechanic said, I would find another mechanic before spending a dime.
You ought to be able to get a used engine installed for closer to $3000, if he means a brand new, never used engine that is probably a good price.
There are thousands of 2.4L ecotec engines in junk yards for $300-$500,

Old 11-15-2023 | 10:20 AM
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I'm not exactly sure what the mechanic means. He told me that he did a more indepth diagnosis and it found a misfire within the engine. I had just replaced an ignition coil on the 3rd cylinder but he was getting another code. So he did this other test. When I drive her, she stutters like she's going to die out, but she doesn't. I don't want to replace the engine if I don't have to. I don't really have the money for it. If I can get her to another mechanic, I'll get that second opinion
Old 11-15-2023 | 10:27 AM
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Demand specifics. Exactly what is the problem what are the code NUMBERS, not some BS description. There is no such thing as an internal misfire.
My bet is it needs a new timing set, If the code is P0016 or P0017.
Find out what tests were done, Ask questions, get things in writing.

Old 11-15-2023 | 10:32 AM
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This is what the paperwork said
Old 11-15-2023 | 11:34 AM
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So the misfire is from a bad valve, rings, head gasket? If he did it correctly he can tell you what it needs rather than replace the engine. To many mechanics swap a couple parts and it that don't fix it replace the engine. After replacement it still misses and they send it to a shop that knows what they are doing to find the wiring problem. Get another opinion. You don't need an engine unless it's a ring or cracked block which is unlikely. The worse you may be looking at is a head problem.
Old 11-15-2023 | 11:44 AM
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This was Oldblue. I’m thinking timing chain possibly a broken front guide. Maybe the balance shaft chain. Not hard or expensive to change
Old 11-15-2023 | 01:24 PM
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The way to test the coil is to swap 2 of them if the code changes the coil is bad. Not just replacing expensive non-returnable parts and seeing if that helps.
They did not do a wet compression test to test the rings. The test shown does not indicate bad valves.
A "tune up" consists of changing the spark plugs (ACDelco 42-103 ONLY} every 100,000 miles. The price they charged is not outrageous, if they used the correct plugs and charge an hourly rate of $100. Find out what brand plugs they installed.
Hard shifting comes from the CheckEngineLight being on.
They only cite a "stored" code, not any "current" codes.
That paper has no mention of "internal misfire".
I have never heard of any one needing a complete teardown to diagnose a misfire.

Sloppy work at least.
Old 11-15-2023 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by greg8453
So the misfire is from a bad valve, rings, head gasket? If he did it correctly he can tell you what it needs rather than replace the engine. To many mechanics swap a couple parts and it that don't fix it replace the engine. After replacement it still misses and they send it to a shop that knows what they are doing to find the wiring problem. Get another opinion. You don't need an engine unless it's a ring or cracked block which is unlikely. The worse you may be looking at is a head problem.

Ok. Thanks for the information!
Old 11-15-2023 | 04:05 PM
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Here's a link to how the running compression tests should have been done.
https://www.alldata.com/us/en/suppor...pression-tests

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