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Old 06-19-2023 | 02:04 PM
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Not complicated at all. Turn the engine on and put the red lead of your VOM on the large red wire on the under hood fuse box. and the black lead on one of the strut bolts. The voltage with the engine running should be more than 12.4 volts, if it is not the alternator is not working.
Battery voltage with the engine off should be more than 12.5 volts, if not the battery is bad..

Check for continuity between the starter and the alternator with your ohm meter to test the fusible link.

All of the big box auto parts stores will test the charging/starting/battery for free.
Old 06-19-2023 | 02:37 PM
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I replaced the fusible link, and there is no issue with the battery or battery supply voltage.

With the car running and the lights on, the voltage drops to under 12 volts.

When her batt light came on I "assumed a bad alt. so I replaced it first, but no change. Just to be safe I replaced the battery as well, but same issue.

I am wondering if the alt. is getting, "on" voltage from the ecm? Do you know what the "turn on" signal is from the ecm" I dont know if its 12 volts, or less?

I dont think the new alt is defective as the issue is the same with as I started with.

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Old 06-19-2023 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PulpFriction
I saved an AC Delco OEM pulled from my 2011 HHR a couple years ago, even tho it seemed to be fine. It holds 12.6 - 12.7 after three months. Couldn't bring myself to chuck it. Might cover me if one of my aftermarket batteries buys it. Haven't had it load tested but now I'm curious.
Battery just sitting there with nothing hooked up to it will last a good while unless it's sitting on concrete. That will drain it.
Old 06-19-2023 | 04:24 PM
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Just a bit of an update. I had some time this afternoon and I tried checking for voltage at connection on the alt. where the small plug is and there is apparently no being supplied to the "turn on terminal". There 2 wires in this connector and from what I can find one is duty cycle the other is "turn on". As I said earlier, what is normal at those terminals?
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Old 06-19-2023 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by greg8453
Battery just sitting there with nothing hooked up to it will last a good while unless it's sitting on concrete. That will drain it.
That concrete thing has been debunked. The only problem is acid leaking onto lime based concrete making explosive gasses.
Old 06-30-2023 | 08:53 AM
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The small connector at the alternator supplies current to the windings based on the need that the ECM determines. Alternators produce voltage based on the current.
The problem could be in the ECM, and there may be no problem at all.
The battery light has been coming on and then off in my 2007 HHR for years, and the car has never gone dead or failed to start. I used a voltmeter that plugs into the lighter and determined that the voltage was always good, and did fluctuate normally. My Fluke VOM verified this. A scanner revealed a code that I can't remember the number, but it had to do with a connection somewhere. In my case this is a harmless gremlin, and I'm not going to change the ECM, either.
If the battery isn't going dead just live with it.
Old 06-30-2023 | 09:15 AM
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The sensor that the computer uses to determine how much current is needed is the plastic ring around the negative battery cable. My alternator output would vary between 11.9 and 13 volts
I think many people think "I don't know what that is so don't plug it in".

Old 08-02-2023 | 11:11 AM
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Check the connection to the frame, shown in the previous photo. It may affect charging, might not. If the connection is loose it will become more resistive and affect the current reading.
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