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Old 08-24-2016 | 10:26 AM
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That is good info Oldblue. I didn't know they were on the HHR, never noticed. That is worst than plastic for any ethanol blend. I have seen many kinked plastic lines.
Old 08-24-2016 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by galephys
You were right, it was a leak in the gas line.

I checked the ground locations and other electrical... but nothing. I noticed that if I turn the key half way and let it sit for a minute or even less, then start the car, it starts just fine. I also had this on and off gas smell in the garage I couldn't pinpoint, but I had it for months and it never got stronger. Then my out of town guests borrowed the car and called to inform me I have gas leaking from around rear left wheel. Great timing,
I could hear hissing from under the fuel\brake lines clip. Turns out, part of the gas line has rusted out. Techs noticed another segment, closer to the tank, may also go soon, but for now I got away with replacing just that one part. I'll pick a date to replace the whole line before it fails though.
Sure enough, now the car starts just fine and the smell is gone. Thank you all, it was good to learn a few new skills.
First mention of gas odor? Or have I missed it more than once?
Old 08-24-2016 | 01:53 PM
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Post 5 - was the only reference I saw - "I have a smell in the garage for the past couple months, a mix of vinegar, fuel and fresh paint, but I can't pinpoint it to anything in particular, could it be related" - hardly describes the smell of gas very well, however some garages have an odour unto themselves.
Old 08-24-2016 | 02:05 PM
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Mine , especially after French fries and white vinegar, pickled eggs and a couple of beers! But that's a different type of gas, smell!
Glad it's pinpointed and repaired before there was a fire
Old 08-24-2016 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Oldblue
Mine , especially after French fries and white vinegar, pickled eggs and a couple of beers! But that's a different type of gas, smell!
Glad it's pinpointed and repaired before there was a fire
Blue...you know that's not gas...you better get your pipes changed...running on methane could increase your HP.
Old 08-24-2016 | 06:32 PM
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And kill an ox! The meds make it bad!!!
Old 08-30-2016 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by galephys
You were right, it was a leak in the gas line.

I checked the ground locations and other electrical... but nothing. I noticed that if I turn the key half way and let it sit for a minute or even less, then start the car, it starts just fine. I also had this on and off gas smell in the garage I couldn't pinpoint, but I had it for months and it never got stronger. Then my out of town guests borrowed the car and called to inform me I have gas leaking from around rear left wheel. Great timing,
I could hear hissing from under the fuel\brake lines clip. Turns out, part of the gas line has rusted out. Techs noticed another segment, closer to the tank, may also go soon, but for now I got away with replacing just that one part. I'll pick a date to replace the whole line before it fails though.
Sure enough, now the car starts just fine and the smell is gone. Thank you all, it was good to learn a few new skills.
The HHRs and most vehicles should be recalled for fuel line rusting. The clamps trap road dirt and salt and dampness causes the lines to rust. On older vehicles, the line was under vacuum pressure so a leak caused the pump to suck air. Now the lines are under pressure and can spray fuel on the hot exhaust and cause a fire. The government needs to require all fuel and brake lines be constructed of stainless steel.
Old 08-30-2016 | 12:57 PM
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and just how many vehicles would be involved in the recall?

You have brought this up previously, and it's been discussed several times. Lets just close this thread now rather than go over the same ground all over again.

galephys - glad you got it resolved without incident.
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