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Old 05-02-2022 | 04:35 PM
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Question Maybe Thermostat Issue?

I have a 2008 HHR SS with just over 101,000 miles I've had it for just over 8 years and as far as I know, never had the coolant system serviced. At the end of last summer, I noticed the water temp gauge getting to 215-220 in the Oklahoma heat in traffic. The coolant was a bit low so I topped it off. I didn't drive it much during the winter here, in fact, I don't drive it much at all. Now May, I notice it typically runs 195-205 which should be normal with the (I assume original) 195 thermostat. Lately, I've noticed the temp ranging from 195-215. What's odd (to me) is the temp will fluctuate between 195 and 215 as I'm driving at a steady 50-55. When I stop at a light the temp (at say 200) may go up or it may not but when I take off it'll climb to 210-215 the eventually go back down to 200-210.

I can see running at a constant speed and constant load the temp may vary a couple of degrees but 10-15 degrees of variance seems a bit excessive. I assume it has the original (or maybe aftermarket) 195-degree stat since it gets to that temp before fluctuating. One question is if I change the 195-degree stat to a 180-degree stat should it run in the 180-190 range and only climb higher in traffic?

I know a properly operating thermostat doesn't cause overheating but with the 195-degree stat, there are only 15-20 degrees to play with. With conditions being equal, would the 180-degree stat help keep it in the 15-20 degree heating range (i.e. 195-200 tops)? And, since the original calls for a 195-degree stat would changing it to a 180-degree stat have any effect on my engine monitoring systems?

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Old 05-02-2022 | 04:49 PM
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Factory thermostat is 180 degree. If you've never serviced the system (as you say,) I sure hope that's not original 14 year old Dexcool in there.
Do yourself a favor and service it. A flush and refill is needed and you should replace the T-stat as well. Remember. Only a genuine AC Delco thermostat. Other brands don't seem to work well in the HHR Ecotec engines.
Old 05-02-2022 | 05:01 PM
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Your coolant is elementally an electrode. It needs to be changed. It can cause cavitation issues as well.
The coolant becomes alkaline and you can actually measure the amount with a volt meter. It's called electrolysis and and can eat the fins off the water pump.

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Old 05-02-2022 | 07:44 PM
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ACDelco 131-158 thermostat
Old 05-02-2022 | 08:59 PM
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Of course use Dexcool 50/50 mix, and burp your coolant!
Old 05-02-2022 | 10:08 PM
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The basic problem sounds like a fan or fan controller problem to me. But, yes Dexcool has a 5 year shelf life regardless of miles or hours.
Old 05-02-2022 | 10:12 PM
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I appreciate the information on the original stat rating. I guess I just assumed since it's always run in the 195-210 range a 195 stat was in there. Guess it is time to get it serviced and replaced. Thanks, everyone. FWIW, I checked a few places on the AC Delco stat, O'reilly's is $66 and Rock Auto is $36. Looks like I'll be getting one through Rock Auto, eh?
Old 05-03-2022 | 06:11 AM
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Don’t forget the discount code!
Old 05-03-2022 | 07:55 AM
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The t=stat temp is the LOWEST operating temp; The fan and radiator try to keep it from overheating. The t-stat is mostly there to get the engine warmed up to 180F quickly, without it the temp may never get to 180F.
Old 05-03-2022 | 08:47 AM
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The original LNF in my SS ran at 194*, At the time, I thought that was normal.

My new engine runs at 180*. The one time it got hot was when the cooling fan went bad.


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