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Old 01-14-2010 | 02:43 PM
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^^ I've heard the same thing from a few mechanics, one of them being a tech for GM
Old 01-27-2010 | 11:04 AM
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Sorry been out of town. Thanks to everyone that responded. My brakes have stopped squealing, but I just can't figured out why my brake pedal is not tightening up....
Old 01-27-2010 | 05:28 PM
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Ask your Uncle if he sprayed down the new rotors with brake cleaner. Some companies (not all) spray a protective coating on the rotors/drums (sometimes even oil) so they do not rust in the box. If the coating is not removed fully you end up with brake "glazing" which would cause the squeeling, then after it's heated up enough and baked onto the rotor and pads you could end up with that low brake power pedal feeling. The only way to get rid of it (if that's the issue) is to clean up the rotors/pads/drums/shoes is with emory cloth.

Do you know the country of origin the rotors/drums were made in? Also if the pads were inexpensive you may have had to break them in with easy stopping for the first couple hundred miles of use-otherwise if they heated up too quickly after being just put on-you'll end up with the squeeling almost right away.
Old 01-27-2010 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Sno White
I have a mechanic next door to me that says you should not use C-clamps to compress the rotors on the newer vehicles with anti-lock brakes. His theory is the back flow through the valve and pump mechanisms is bad for the unit.

He says it is better to crack a bleeder and when finished with the job to bleed the brakes.

Just putting this out there for discussion.
That procedure bleeds the brakes while changing the pads. There should be NO need to bleed the system when simply replacing pads & rotors. There is no one-way valving in ABS systems to worry about. If the pedal goes down to the floor DO NOT drive the vehicle until somebody fixes that problem!!!
My suspicion is that he used the C-clamp, but opened the bleeder valve, thus admitting air into the system. Unless your intention is to replace brake fluid, you never "need" to open a bleeder valve!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 01-27-2010 | 05:49 PM
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I don't know about the one-way valve or not, but I believe his concern is the dirty brake fluid in the caliper piston cavity getting back up into the brake module and unnecessarily contaminating it. Thus causing it to fail earlier.
Old 01-27-2010 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sno White
I have a mechanic next door to me that says you should not use C-clamps to compress the rotors on the newer vehicles with anti-lock brakes.
He's wrong if you meant calipers.
Old 01-29-2010 | 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackknighT
Ask your Uncle if he sprayed down the new rotors with brake cleaner. Some companies (not all) spray a protective coating on the rotors/drums (sometimes even oil) so they do not rust in the box. If the coating is not removed fully you end up with brake "glazing" which would cause the squeeling, then after it's heated up enough and baked onto the rotor and pads you could end up with that low brake power pedal feeling. The only way to get rid of it (if that's the issue) is to clean up the rotors/pads/drums/shoes is with emory cloth.

Do you know the country of origin the rotors/drums were made in? Also if the pads were inexpensive you may have had to break them in with easy stopping for the first couple hundred miles of use-otherwise if they heated up too quickly after being just put on-you'll end up with the squeeling almost right away.
My rotors are made Wearever which I believe is an Advance Auto brand. So they were cheap and probably made in China..
Old 01-30-2010 | 12:16 AM
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Even Wagner has a "cheap" brand.....
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