Throttle body question
#1
Throttle body question
stale thread but I have the same issue
cleaned my TB last night. Took off the air hose, left the maf sensor inside the intake tube (put it aside so i didnt get it sprayed with the TB cleaner) , unplugged TB, and removed it. Sprayed it with cleaner and wiped it clean while being gentle with the butterfly. I know some people have said to not remove it, but others have been ok with removing it and cleaning.
Well after reassembly, started up the car, rpms were high hitting 2500-3000. Let it run for a few minutes, came down a bit but not much. I then tried to follow the GM relearn process, which did not work since the rpms are still high. It is coming down slowly, finally at idle the rpms drop below 1000, but when driving and when i lift my foot off gas pedal, the rpms remain the same as if my foot is on the gas. Car drives it self. Also putting in neutral and revving up, the rpms take a few seconds for it to come down.
Did the relearn a couple times last night and this morning and still the same. It is getting better slowly with idle rpms but when driving the rpms stay up there as if cruise control is enganged.
any ideas?
thanks
cleaned my TB last night. Took off the air hose, left the maf sensor inside the intake tube (put it aside so i didnt get it sprayed with the TB cleaner) , unplugged TB, and removed it. Sprayed it with cleaner and wiped it clean while being gentle with the butterfly. I know some people have said to not remove it, but others have been ok with removing it and cleaning.
Well after reassembly, started up the car, rpms were high hitting 2500-3000. Let it run for a few minutes, came down a bit but not much. I then tried to follow the GM relearn process, which did not work since the rpms are still high. It is coming down slowly, finally at idle the rpms drop below 1000, but when driving and when i lift my foot off gas pedal, the rpms remain the same as if my foot is on the gas. Car drives it self. Also putting in neutral and revving up, the rpms take a few seconds for it to come down.
Did the relearn a couple times last night and this morning and still the same. It is getting better slowly with idle rpms but when driving the rpms stay up there as if cruise control is enganged.
any ideas?
thanks
#2
Moved to a new thread
The computer strives to maintain a constant Air/Fuel ratio of 14.7:1. You can't do anything about it short of changing the computer firmware.
The computer measures the air flow and adjusts the injectors to keep the A/F at 14.7:1.
The throttle is electronically controlled. I don't know how you could drive with the electronic part disabled. Nobody ever said that you can't take it apart, just that it is not serviceable (they don;'t sell component parts).
If you tore it apart you broke it you need to get a new one. Used, they are cheap.
I'm sorry but I can't read the wall of words. I hope that answers the question. Erasing codes erases codes it does not fix anything.
P0223 means that the Throttle position sensor is reading a High voltage. This could happen if somehow the butterfly was held wide open while the key was turned on, or if it got stuck more than wide open or the sensor is broken in a more than wide open state. I don't have the time right now to research any more.
Posting the year, model and engine is helpful.
The computer strives to maintain a constant Air/Fuel ratio of 14.7:1. You can't do anything about it short of changing the computer firmware.
The computer measures the air flow and adjusts the injectors to keep the A/F at 14.7:1.
The throttle is electronically controlled. I don't know how you could drive with the electronic part disabled. Nobody ever said that you can't take it apart, just that it is not serviceable (they don;'t sell component parts).
If you tore it apart you broke it you need to get a new one. Used, they are cheap.
I'm sorry but I can't read the wall of words. I hope that answers the question. Erasing codes erases codes it does not fix anything.
P0223 means that the Throttle position sensor is reading a High voltage. This could happen if somehow the butterfly was held wide open while the key was turned on, or if it got stuck more than wide open or the sensor is broken in a more than wide open state. I don't have the time right now to research any more.
Posting the year, model and engine is helpful.
#3
if you touch a stuck throttle and you force it open
If you force open the throttle body on an HHR you need a new one because you just broke it....
#4
Could be a loose connection, read causes and solutions, here
https://repairpal.com/obd-ii-code-p0223
as for the throttle body, if you took it apart , there is the problem, we get a discount from RockAuto.
https://repairpal.com/obd-ii-code-p0223
as for the throttle body, if you took it apart , there is the problem, we get a discount from RockAuto.
#5
Moved to a new thread
The computer strives to maintain a constant Air/Fuel ratio of 14.7:1. You can't do anything about it short of changing the computer firmware.
The computer measures the air flow and adjusts the injectors to keep the A/F at 14.7:1.
The throttle is electronically controlled. I don't know how you could drive with the electronic part disabled. Nobody ever said that you can't take it apart, just that it is not serviceable (they don;'t sell component parts).
If you tore it apart you broke it you need to get a new one. Used, they are cheap.
I'm sorry but I can't read the wall of words. I hope that answers the question. Erasing codes erases codes it does not fix anything.
P0223 means that the Throttle position sensor is reading a High voltage. This could happen if somehow the butterfly was held wide open while the key was turned on, or if it got stuck more than wide open or the sensor is broken in a more than wide open state. I don't have the time right now to research any more.
Posting the year, model and engine is helpful.
The computer strives to maintain a constant Air/Fuel ratio of 14.7:1. You can't do anything about it short of changing the computer firmware.
The computer measures the air flow and adjusts the injectors to keep the A/F at 14.7:1.
The throttle is electronically controlled. I don't know how you could drive with the electronic part disabled. Nobody ever said that you can't take it apart, just that it is not serviceable (they don;'t sell component parts).
If you tore it apart you broke it you need to get a new one. Used, they are cheap.
I'm sorry but I can't read the wall of words. I hope that answers the question. Erasing codes erases codes it does not fix anything.
P0223 means that the Throttle position sensor is reading a High voltage. This could happen if somehow the butterfly was held wide open while the key was turned on, or if it got stuck more than wide open or the sensor is broken in a more than wide open state. I don't have the time right now to research any more.
Posting the year, model and engine is helpful.
thank you for your reply and I have taken your advice since I cant get the computer to agree with my adjustments I found a throttle at a junk yard with the same gap I maid and some how it word and now 2008 hhr 2.2l runs like a SS. Wonder if taking it apart breached some kind of fail save to govern my speed.
#6
thank you for your reply and I have taken your advice since I cant get the computer to agree with my adjustments I found a throttle at a junk yard with the same gap I maid and some how it word and now 2008 hhr 2.2l runs like a SS. Wonder if taking it apart breached some kind of fail save to govern my speed.
Do you read what you write before you post it?
#7
No, you just broke it. THERE IS NO ADJUSTMENT. It is not a carburetor.
I suggest you study up on cars made this century before you start messing with electronic components. They have nothing in common with 2 stroke motor cycles.
Tearing thing up as a learning experience is great, if you can afford it.
I suggest you study up on cars made this century before you start messing with electronic components. They have nothing in common with 2 stroke motor cycles.
Tearing thing up as a learning experience is great, if you can afford it.
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