I like the M1 syn (period) But I get deals on it also..

 

The part that I highlighted above....needs to be clarified. IF that statement is posted on the bottle, AND STATES "Meets or Exceeds GM4718M" then yes it has been summitted and approved by GM, and does, in fact, meet that standard. The emphasis on MEETS OR EXCEEDS is the important part. IF it states, "RECOMMENDED for GM4718M requirements (or some such), it MAY meet the requirements....but frankly it may not. Those manufacturers, quite frankly, are utilizing misleading marketing language to sell their own product.

It's kind of like the Owners Manual stating "Recommended" and "Required". Now which one would you use (if that GM4718M requiremnt is important to you). My own opinion, I'm not sure it's necessary.

 

Why do we always hear about how expensive a new motor is when talking oils....whens the last time anybody wrecked a motor strictly because of the type oil used?? Motors break because of defective parts or downright abuse, not because of oil.Oil technology has evolved to a point where any oil is good as long as its used whats it was intended for.......also for syn oils and good deaLS...next time your in your fav parts store ask what oil they use in the store brand...PEP Boys used to carry M1 in their own name for $2 something a quart, granted they don't anymore but still check....Walmart SuperTech oils are Valvoline....pays to ask..pays to shop around

 

Wal-Mart buys their branded oil from the lowest bidder.....Valvoline now but it was Quaker State a few years ago. As long as the SAE and designated specs are met you are good to go.

BUT, I use Amsoil...it EXCEEDS every manufacturer's specifications. American made and American owned!

 

I would like to see that in writing, from the manufacturer....especially meeting or exceeding the GM 4718M standard. That goes for ALL the other "designer/boutique" oils. Some DO NOT even meet the API requirements.

It's a game of words!!

 

Up until January of this year I worked on the OEM side of the auto business. I have seen and had to respond to customers that didn't use the correct oils. It aint pretty, but it does happen. Wrong viscosity or just flat wrong oil. I prefer Castrol, but Mobil 1 is easier to find at oil change places/dealers. I'm to lazy to change my own. Royal Purple is great from what I hear from drag racers I know and hated by track clean up crews, but not sure it meets the standard of new engines. I ran Amsiol in my Bug Eye sprite. No engine wear failures. antique engine though. Dino oil didn't do the job at race speeds and temps.

Been running Mobil 1 on all our new cars for about 5 years now. Castrol in the hotrods. Worked better then Mobil 1 in my Vette. 10lbs better oil pressure.

 

I think I may start using BP oil.

At the rate it is going you will have it on tap right at your own sink or available at a beach near you.

Been using Mobil 1 for a long time in all my cars. It is very affordable if you don't go change crazy which is no longer needed. The start up in the cold it performs so much better.

To be honest ratings or not most older cars will work well on anything rated or not. most have quality now that is better than anything when they were built.

But there are some new engines like a turbo the extra heat can be an issue on the internals . The higher heat and RPM can and will break down many oils.

 

http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/sso.aspx

Maybe someone could explain the differences in the valve train configuration between the three motors.

Being of German design the 2L may require zinc in the oil.

I'm no expert but there is considerable discussion about the European spec oils on other sites and it seems they require a higher zinc level if memory serves.

 

Amsoil site says:AMSOIL Signature Series 0W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil is recommended for use in gasoline engines, diesel engines (API CF, ACEA B5) and other applications requiring SAE 0W-30, 5W-30 or 10W-30 with the following worldwide specifications:

• API SM/CF, SL, SJ …
• ILSAC GF-4, 3 …
• ACEA A5/B5-04
• GM 4718M, 6094M
• Ford WSS-M2C929-A
• Honda HTO-06
• Daimler Chrysler MS-6395N
• VW 503.00

But did not indicate that that it has any OEM approvals. I tried the Mobile 1 with 0-30 rating and I immeadiatly took it back out of my Vette. Lost oil pressure and the engine was so loud. Swithched to Castrol after that. That said, I run Mobile 1 in our two turbo cars and our Crossfires as recommended

 

Hotrodbob and Tominator......

See that's my point. People read, but don't fully comprehend. "Bob" you got it.....it is RECOMMENDED not MEETS OR EXCEEDS. There is a big difference in the two meanings. It's like the Dealer Service Writer saying they RECOMMEND 3000 mile oil changes, fuel injector flush, master cylinder flush, and all the other services that generally are not needed....some even NOT recommended by the manufacturer.

While Amsoil is probably a great product, I think they should stop misleading people about it's capabilities/qualities. And it continues to perpetuate becomes users just DO NOT understand what they are reading, and espouse all the unproven and fictitious qualities. If it's a good product it should stand on it's own merit, without adding misleading editorial or lying about it.

Now Amsoil is not the only producer of a product who distorts facts to provide a positive image. Many vehicle producers, other oil producers, gasoline producers, electronics manufacturers, and many services providers are in the same category.

What can one expect, when we have Presidents, Senators, lawyers, etc. lying and misleading on a daily, if not hourly, basis. Great role models for the American (and possibly world) business leaders.

My opinion, based on extensive research for a position thesus many years ago.