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Old 12-27-2019, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by terryk
I posted in this thread many years ago. I still own my SS and the reving is clearly the shift anticipation code working normally.

If you've every seen the official GM program code listing for one of their manual trans cars, it's right there. In the 80's and 90's it was more crude in that it would just not let the RPMs dropped when you clutched it. It made the engine/trans RPM matching must better. Then if you clutched it and rolled to a stop, the RPMs would hold around 1500 and then slowly drop over a couple of seconds. Depending on the code, it was was around 10-15 MPH. The programmer assumed you were coming to a stop. Drove people nuts trying to decide if something was wrong, but it's not.

As faster processors came along and they added clutch pedal sensors they could better predict what you were about to do. It is possible to fool it so that you get that high rev up. If you rev the engine in gear and then quickly clutch it, it will probably hold high. But generally it won't happen in normal shifting. On the other hand, if you are banging gears it greatly improves the synchronization of the engine RPM to the trans input shaft speed for the next gear.

Bottom line - you're trying to fix something that isn't broken. If it holds more than 5 seconds without dropping, then yes, something is wrong. Mine always starts to drop after a few seconds.
I might believe you if I hadn't owned one that never did this once. If it's supposed to do this, that means the first one I had was broken. I want this one to be broken like the last one.
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Old 12-27-2019, 06:34 PM
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I came across this today:



Seems like it is supposed to do the opposite and maybe a table is wrong in the ECM or TCM. Kind of like double clutching.
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Old 12-27-2019, 08:32 PM
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Well, the TCM would be for an automatic, so....
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Old 12-30-2019, 03:08 PM
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I briefly had this. Cleaned the throttle body and it went away forever.

Not a mystery. Sticky butterfly valve...
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Old 01-04-2020, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ_RS_SS_350
Well, the TCM would be for an automatic, so....
That's what I was thinking.
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Old 01-04-2020, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue_SS
I briefly had this. Cleaned the throttle body and it went away forever.

Not a mystery. Sticky butterfly valve...
If you read through the entire thread, it seems to be deeper than that. Most of the cars with this problem have done it since day one and some have replaced the throttle body and it did not solve the problem.
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Old 01-14-2020, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue_SS
I briefly had this. Cleaned the throttle body and it went away forever.

Not a mystery. Sticky butterfly valve...
Hey Blue SS,
How did you clean your TB? Is there an easier way than to disassemble the front end?

I would appreciate any help.

Thanks,
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Interesting Rocky. Cutting to the end, this video explains why rev hang happens with older, port injected engines.

But when it happens with a very small percentage of our direct injection SS's, there's something wrong. I believe the issue with mine was with the cpp and/or bpp sensor(s). Most likely the cpp sensor.
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Old 08-17-2024, 03:44 PM
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It appears that I've finally solved this problem! I've been living with this problem because I couldn't find a solution. My car is now high mileage, 218,000 miles. I've owned it since 104,000 miles and it's had this problem ever since I've owned it. Recently, the clutch pedal started sticking and the engine revving problem during shifts got much worse, doing it on all shifts. Shifting became difficult too and I started getting intermittent CEL's with Clutch Pedal Position Sensor errors. A few days ago I removed the covers under the steering column to have a look. I immediately noticed that it would be really simple to add an extra clutch pedal return spring, so I added a spring that I had in the garage. Not only did it make the pedal return all the way up, it solved ALL my problems, including the hard shifting and it completely eliminated ALL engine revving during shifts. The car is a complete joy to drive now. the only downside is a slightly stiffer clutch pedal.
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